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re: Update: all charges dropped against cop-SWAT storm house, kills 7 year old girl
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:57 am to Sevendust912
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:57 am to Sevendust912
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How is it murder?
What else would you call willfully busting in the house of an innocent person, known to contain children, and then shooting a 7 year old girl dead?
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Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:58 am to LT
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What I'm trying to say is he obviously didn't intend to kill the kid. It was a tragic accident and the grandma may have swatted the weapon. She claims she didn't ,but I have a hard time finding her credible considering the murderer in her family.
The police had no right to be there. They botched an investigation, did no due diligence on the property, ignored information from neighbors, and obviously obtained a warrant without proving their case.
These are not simply accidents, they are acts of criminal negligence.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:58 am to LT
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True that. Horrible confluence of events.
Definitely true about that
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:58 am to NYNolaguy1
Is there a more dangerous and inefficient way of arresting a suspect than a SWAT raid?
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:59 am to Rickety Cricket
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What else would you call willfully busting in the house of an innocent person, known to contain children, and then shooting a 7 year old girl dead?
Apparently some here just call it tuesday
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:59 am to SG_Geaux
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While this is a terrible tragedy. shite happens when you harbor a fugitive.
I don't think you understand what the term "fugitive" means, because "suspect" and "fugitive" have two totally different meanings.
at the time of the shooting he was not a "fugitive" from the law.
This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:00 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Is there a more dangerous and inefficient way of arresting a suspect than a SWAT raid?
Perhaps not but how else are you gonna use all them cool toys
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:01 am to cave canem
Exactly
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:01 am to LT
Here's a serious question for the LEO of the board. How is the commander of this raid not being held criminally liable- at all? He knew there were kids in the house. They get the wrong apartment. He still goes in. The negligence is overwhelming. An innocent kid dies.
Or is this just SOP for SWAT teams to kill women and children whenever they want with no consequences?
Or is this just SOP for SWAT teams to kill women and children whenever they want with no consequences?
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:02 am to SG_Geaux
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But it would not have happened if the original crime had not happened.
Really?
You do know that I could right now call the cops and say that you shot a gun at me, or raped me or accused you of something horrendous and they will in turn "investigate" you.
Are you now a "fugitive"? Are you responsible?
Do you understand how the system works?
That you are INNOCENT until proven guilty by a court of your peers.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:02 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Is there a more dangerous and inefficient way of arresting a suspect than a SWAT raid?
A SWAT raid perpetrated by Barney Fifes of local PDs.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:03 am to fightin tigers
quote:No. Black and white laws are a scam. Each situation should be viewed as an individual situation, not in the context of other events.
So, you get in a wreck due to negligence and some is killed due to a cop losing control of his car responding. You are responsible for that persons death?
Scruffy does not support one size fits all legislation or thought processes.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:04 am to Scruffy
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Why are cops the only ones given a pass when they make "mistakes" of this magnitude?
Because they always carry guns. Guns come out guns get fired. The case where the cop shoots (only wounds) the guy reaching for his wallet across the car is interesting. He CLEARLY never needs to be a cop again. He fires 6 times I believe. Twice with him backing away with his hands raised. His case is similar I believe to the father finding a guy in his teen daughters room and kills him. Find out later the girl lied and it is a boyfriend. Different set of circumstances but he truly believed his and his daughters lives were in danger. Just as the cop did for a second. They were both completely wrong. What rule of law applies? Murder? Manslaughter? Negligent homicide? What applies when your stupidity results in death? I am only speaking on these 2 incidents to Scruffy's point. I know nothing of the Detroit shooting and am not clicking a link in OP for fear of it leading to the video of a girl being killed.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:04 am to NYNolaguy1
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Or is this just SOP for SWAT teams to kill women and children whenever they want with no consequences?
Starting to look that way, right now there are very few consequences for swat frick ups, when the pendulum swings back however who knows.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:04 am to Rickety Cricket
It just seems like there is a better way. Put undercover cops on his tail and make the bust when he isn't expecting it in a safe manner.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:06 am to NYNolaguy1
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Or is this just SOP for SWAT teams to kill women and children whenever they want with no consequences?
SOP is a bit much. But anyone who is paying attention sees way too many of these incidents. From SWAT and "regular" police.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:06 am to Sevendust912
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But it is funny to see the badasses show up in these threads. "I'd have killed the cop"
One day a cop is going to kill a kid or a dog or something and then soon after you will hear a story about that cop being killed soon after. It will happen.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:07 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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It just seems like there is a better way. Put undercover cops on his tail and make the bust when he isn't expecting it in a safe manner
Of course there are better ways, but they involve, you know, effort and cancel out the flashbangs.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:07 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:but no reality tv show in doing that and the cool toys will collect dust.
It just seems like there is a better way. Put undercover cops on his tail and make the bust when he isn't expecting it in a safe manner.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:08 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:Naturally. Bad arse SWAT will take you down, mother fricker! [Or, at least, that's what he was going for. Maybe they can get his psychiatric therapy and trial on TV too.]
being filmed for a reality TV show in the process
This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 11:09 am
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