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re: Update: all charges dropped against cop-SWAT storm house, kills 7 year old girl
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:25 am to LT
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:25 am to LT
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I meant the fact that the swat team was there. If mr Owens wouldn't have killed the teen there wouldn't have been a cop in the house who couldn't properly handle his weapon. It's a sad, tragic accident, if I read the story correctly.
LT- from the second article I posted- apparently it was a duplex, and the suspect was living upstairs. They got the wrong apartment.
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Appearing this morning on WJR-AM 760 with host Paul W. Smith, Fieger elaborated on the footage, which he says contradicts the department's preliminary account, and suggested the Special Response Team's original search warrant covered only the lower level apartment where Aiyana was shot, not the upper-level apartment where they apprehended the murder suspect they were seeking.
It gets worse-
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Following the shooting, various outlets reported that neighbors told police there were children in the house and showed them toys in the front yard. At Sunday's press conference, Assistant Police Chief Ralph Godbee refused to comment on those reports while the department moved forward with its investigation. "It's worse than that," Fieger said. "It shows this in the video. There's a gentleman by the name of Mr. Robinson who lives in the home. He was out walking his dogs when they arrived. They took him and threw him to the ground and stood on his neck. He said, 'There are children living in the home. There are children in the home.' And just after that they walk up on the porch and throw an incendiary grenade into it. So it's worse than even you know." Flash grenade landed on Aiyana as she slept: Detroit police confirmed they threw a flash grenade into Aiyana's home as a diversionary tactic before ramming the door and entering during the execution of a high-risk, no-knock search warrant. Godbee said this week officers believed the suspect they were seeking could be armed and dangerous. In the wake of the shooting, Aiyana's father told the Detroit Free Press the flash grenade landed on the couch where Aiyana was sleeping, possibly burning her before she was shot. Fieger, who has met with the family, suggested that account was accurate.
They knew kids were in the house, still went in. Protect and serve themselves.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:26 am to LT
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Holy shite dude! Don't let tigerdroppings get in your head so much. This is supposed to be fun.
I'm having a ball, 'billy.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:26 am to LT
quote:they do it at these times so they can surprise suspects and kill innocents and blame it on accidents. If they did research worth a frick they would know that a 7 year old girl was in the home and that this should be conducted at another time.
but don't they usually do these things at night or in the early morning? There must be a reason why it happens when it does.
quote:ill go with murder since i consider it gross incompetence to accidentally discharge your firearm.
Do you consider this murder or an accident?
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:26 am to fr33manator
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I would have killed that POS on the spot
sure you would have
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:27 am to NYNolaguy1
Leave it to rotten murdering pigs to lie in the face of blatant contradictory video evidence. frick them all, especially the pig who murdered the little girl. I hope the worst for him.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:27 am to Sevendust912
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I hate the police for the most part. But it is funny to see the badasses show up in these threads. "I'd have killed the cop"
So when the police show up and kill your 7 year old daughter, you'll pat them on the back and say good job?
I hope you don't have children.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:28 am to LT
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Serious question... Do you consider this murder or an accident?
Now do I think this is cold blooded murder? No. I don't think the officer had the intent to kill a 7 year old girl that day.
I don't think that when someone gets on the road after drinking that they intend to kill a van load of nuns and orphans either.
Tragic accident...yes. But if a civilian had Made a "tragic accident" (which in this case is really itchy trigger finger and blowing the head off a middle schooler) he'd be (metaphorically) strung up in the town square and ( literally) thrown into jail.
The problem is the cop will not face this kind of discipline and we all know it.
A little girl is dead.
And an officer of the law will break the law and nothing will happen other than a paid vacation.
And the boot-lickers will say that it makes us safer...but it doesn't.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:29 am to Sevendust912
I don't think anyone knows what they'd really do or be capable of if someone shot and killed their innocent seven year old girl.
This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:30 am to NYNolaguy1
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So when the police show up and kill your 7 year old daughter, you'll pat them on the back and say good job?
why would I try and kill the cop and end up dead or in jail? Doesn't seem too smart does it?
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:30 am to SG_Geaux
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Does the guy who committed the murder have no responsibility ?
He wasn't even in that apartment.
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Does the family who harbored him have no responsibility ?
He wasn't even in that apartment.
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Does the grandmother have no responsibility for interfering and causing the officer weapon to discharge ?
He wasn't even in that apartment.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:32 am to Sevendust912
I think you have to consider the possibility that you might not think that rationally if you just saw your 7 year old die.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:32 am to heartbreakTiger
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they do it at these times so they can surprise suspects and kill innocents and blame it on accidents.
Oh my word.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:33 am to LT
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Do you consider this murder
Without question.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:35 am to SG_Geaux
quote:He is partly responsible, yes.
Does the guy who committed the murder have no responsibility ?
quote:Only if they knew that he was a fugitive.
Does the family who harbored him have no responsibility ?
quote:No.
Does the grandmother have no responsibility for interfering and causing the officer weapon to discharge ?
Now answer this question:
Should cops be held accountable for their actions the same way the rest of society is?
Is it not reasonable to expect cops to do their jobs without resulting in the death of an innocent?
Why are cops the only ones given a pass when they make "mistakes" of this magnitude?
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:36 am to SG_Geaux
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While this is a terrible tragedy. shite happens when a guy who murdered a guy lives in the 2nd story apartment.
Fify
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:37 am to Rickety Cricket
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Do you consider this murder
Without question.
How is it murder?
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:38 am to Scruffy
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Should cops be held accountable for their actions the same way the rest of society is?
If there is an accidental discharge on a hunting trip that results in a death... Is this considered murder? I wouldn't think it would be but I could be wrong.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:38 am to NYNolaguy1
This affects more than people of color.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:40 am to LT
People going on a hunting trip together is not analogous to cops violently entering an incorrect residence and accidentally killing a child.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:40 am to LT
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He was swinging his weapon to point toward the couch, Weekley testified, when Aiyana's grandmother, Mertilla Jones -- who had been sleeping on the couch with the girl -- smacked his weapon, an MP5 submachine gun, with her hand, causing him to pull the trigger. The bullet struck and killed Aiyana.
This is what the officer is saying. The grandmother says she was on the ground, not close enough to touch the gun.
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Jones told a different story at Weekley's trial last year. She said she'd initially been asleep on the couch with Aiyana, but that she was on the floor when Weekley shot his weapon, not close enough to touch the gun.
This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 10:41 am
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