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re: Update: all charges dropped against cop-SWAT storm house, kills 7 year old girl
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:42 pm to Open Your Eyes
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:42 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Well clearly you don't read the shite you post before hitting the submit button, because all I did was show you how incredibly stupid your logic regarding the grandmother was.
No dumbass you tried to argue what was in my head. You're a moron.
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Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:48 pm to Clames
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You've been a miserable, ignorant bootlicker from page 1. "Accidental" discharge...
What is his bootlicker shite you queers come up with.
You're saying it wasn't accidental? You believe this cop, being filmed on a reality tv show, sees the little girl and decides to shoot her? Are you kidding me?!?! Like this fricker thinks to himself, "I'm here, I have this sweet army gear... I might as well shoot a little girl in the chest."
What goes on in some your heads amazes me.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 6:28 am to Scruffy
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Only if they knew that he was a fugitive.
Well, the article goes on to say that the girl's father was later convicted of giving Owens the gun that murdered the teen and so, even though it doesn't fit the cop hating narrative here, yes the family knew he was a murderer.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 6:34 am
Posted on 10/19/14 at 7:05 am to NYNolaguy1
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Did he pull the trigger
Yall know that doesn't matter right? LT asked a good question.
In La you can be charged with murder if someone is killed as a result of you committing a felony. For example you rob a bank and cop hits a pedestrian while chasing you. You can be slapped with that charge.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 8:14 am to LT
I think the difference here is a simple disagreement on what is an accident. LT I have to agree with him that this was at the least gross negligence and not an accident. The officer should be tried convicted and jailed for what happened in that house.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:12 am to cave canem
So what we're up to is the officers went to the wrong apartment, assaulted a neighbor trying to give them useful and accurate info, threw a flash bang onto a couch that the child they were trying to be warned about was sleeping on and then had their finger on the trigger of a machine gun and we still have people on the "totally accidental" bandwagon because he didn't plan to kill a kid and the occupants were related to someone that was suspected of murder? Oh and the police statements don't seem to be matching the incidents.
That's the cliffs here?
That's the cliffs here?
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 9:14 am
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:39 am to NoSaint
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So what we're up to is the officers went to the wrong apartment, assaulted a neighbor trying to give them useful and accurate info, threw a flash bang onto a couch that the child they were trying to be warned about was sleeping on and then had their finger on the trigger of a machine gun and we still have people on the "totally accidental" bandwagon because he didn't plan to kill a kid and the occupants were related to someone that was suspected of murder? Oh and the police statements don't seem to be matching the incidents. That's the cliffs here?
Bingo. You get an up vote. Clearly some on this board think the police can't do any wrong.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:40 am to NoSaint
No, he rented the upstairs of what appears to be a house from the pictures. I would assume you would have to enter downstairs to head up stairs like most other houses in the country. The person living upstairs was later convicted of first degree murder of another child and the girl's father was convicted of giving Owens the gun so the family knew they were renting the space to a child murderer. I am not saying the cop isn't at fault but there is more than one side.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:43 am to artompkins
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would assume you would have to enter downstairs to head up stairs like most other houses in the country.
It was a duplex. Separate apartments.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:50 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:54 am to mikelbr
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Yall know that doesn't matter right? LT asked a good question.
In La you can be charged with murder if someone is killed as a result of you committing a felony. For example you rob a bank and cop hits a pedestrian while chasing you. You can be slapped with that charge.
well that is stupid in many ways.
So lets say a cop suspects someone of have a pound of pot. He goes to pull the person over and runs over a boy scout troop selling popcorn on the shoulder of the highway. You're telling me that the person with the pot could be found accountable, instead of the cop? I mean the guy committing the felony didn't kill the other person. It's just stupid. Personally I would arrest the damn troop leader, shouldn't of been out there anyway, it's a damn highway.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:55 am to artompkins
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Well, the article goes on to say that the girl's father was later convicted of giving Owens the gun that murdered the teen and so, even though it doesn't fit the cop hating narrative here, yes the family knew he was a murderer.
You can charge the father, but the police should be held accountable. The cop is on record of saying he thought someone else pulled the trigger, I'd say it's fair to question his innocence.
The father, if knowingly harboring a murderer in the home with children is also guilty.
The use of flash grenades wasn't protocol according to sources. Police need to rethink their approach to finding fugitives in homes, it's dangerous for everyone involved. If you live in the hood and armed men burst in your home and flash grenades are going off, what would be your reaction?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You can charge the father, but the police should be held accountable. The cop is on record of saying he thought someone else pulled the trigger, I'd say it's fair to question his innocence.
The father, if knowingly harboring a murderer in the home with children is also guilty.
The use of flash grenades wasn't protocol according to sources. Police need to rethink their approach to finding fugitives in homes, it's dangerous for everyone involved. If you live in the hood and armed men burst in your home and flash grenades are going off, what would be your reaction?
I totally agree with all of that; just pointing out that at least some of the family is partially responsible here. I believe the police were negligent here but it isn't murder as some of the hyperbole and rhetoric suggests.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:23 pm to mikelbr
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Yall know that doesn't matter right? LT asked a good question. In La you can be charged with murder if someone is killed as a result of you committing a felony. For example you rob a bank and cop hits a pedestrian while chasing you. You can be slapped with that charge.
I failed to get my point across. Let me try this another way.
The cops are trying to get a cat they're fairly certain killed a guy off the street. This is a noble endeavor. However a ton of shite went terribly wrong.
Whoever planned the raid didn't realize they bad guy was in the upstairs apartment, not the one being raided.
They cop that shot the little girl went through the door, then another officer threw in a flash bang grenade (is grenade appropriate, I think that's what they are called) disorienting him.
The grandma may, or may not have swatted the guys rifle. He says yes, she says no. They both have reason to lie.
Let's not forget the reason the wolves were at their doorstep, Mr. Owens brought them there by killing a teenager.
There are all of these events that took place, ending with a little girl shot and killed. Only one person is being held responsible for this, the cop who held the gun. I ask is that fair?
Shouldn't his boss be held responsible? What about the guy who planned the raid, and didn't recognize this was a duplex?
The prevailing wisdom of the OT is to crucify this guy. There seems to be levels of incompetency and terrible decisions that culminated in the child being killed. But should one single man pay for it? Isn't the one that threw the grenade thing at least somewhat culpable? Is he on trial for his life?
I get it... Rabble, rabble, rabble... Bootlickers, pigs, military shite, geds...
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:30 pm to LT
Reading your empathetic words makes me wonder how thousands of murder suspects have been arrested without the use of flash grenades, no-knock midnight raids, and assault weapons.
This is the problem with the current state of affairs: a large sect of society believes that we need to employ these tactics to win some battle. We do not.
This is the problem with the current state of affairs: a large sect of society believes that we need to employ these tactics to win some battle. We do not.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:38 pm to LT
Sure. I think more of those up the ladder are culpable.
You have to start somewhere though.
You have to start somewhere though.
quote:X INFINITY
This is the problem with the current state of affairs: a large sect of society believes that we need to employ these tactics to win some battle. We do not.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:41 pm to SG_Geaux
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While this is a terrible tragedy. shite happens when you harbor a fugitive.
I guess you blame rape victims for wearing skirts, huh?
you boot lickers are sickening. a 7 year old is dead because of a cop. don't give me bullshite that it's anyone else's fault but the cop who killed her. go frick yourself.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:55 pm to artompkins
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Looked like a house from the picture but I could be wrong. LINK
Do you not understand what a duplex is?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:55 pm to TH03
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I guess you blame rape victims for wearing skirts, huh?
you boot lickers are sickening. a 7 year old is dead because of a cop. don't give me bullshite that it's anyone else's fault but the cop who killed her. go frick yourself.
So criminal parents are gonna criminal and they bare no blame at all for letting their daughter live on the same property as a child murderer? Even you don't believe that for one second. There is more blame to go around than just one cop.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 1:02 pm to mouton
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Do you not understand what a duplex is?
It doesn't look like the duplexes around where I live and that's why I said it "looked" like a house but I could be wrong.
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