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re: The Fermi Paradox (Why we haven't been contacted by aliens)
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:14 pm to FT
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:14 pm to FT
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But we wouldn't have reached our Filter yet.
They already established there could be random cosmic rays that would die down eventually so one could have wiped out complex life on Mars before Earth's started. Earth had positive adaptation by "chance" yet Mars did not in round two. Now, however, the rays have stopped.
His conclusion was not logical.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 4:16 pm
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:16 pm to FT
That's awesome. Hopefully next time I read it I won't end up with a headache.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:19 pm to AngryBeavers
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I do agree that it is in our best interest to not make contact with any other intelligent life.
I agree. We should sit by ourselves and keep quiet. I mean what if we do something embarrassing? I would die.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:20 pm to FT
I've been reading....holy crap, what a fantastic link.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:21 pm to The Sad Banana
That North Korean article on that site was nuts.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:23 pm to illuminatic
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I mean what if we do something embarrassing? I would die.
An interstellar faux pas would be the absolute worst. And undoubtedly Obama's fault.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:32 pm to FT
I feel like we'll destroy ourselves before we get to Type II/III.
Going along with the METI talk... Maybe we should keep to ourselves in our little solar system. Could you imagine running into a technologically superior, war-like alien species? Kind of a dumb analogy, but like Halo. Right now. We would all get slaughtered in a single day. We haven't expanded across multiple galaxies, we have no way of fighting them in their territory, and we only have nuclear weapons as a viable weapon that would work effectively in space (which would knock out our own electronics if we're not careful
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Going along with the METI talk... Maybe we should keep to ourselves in our little solar system. Could you imagine running into a technologically superior, war-like alien species? Kind of a dumb analogy, but like Halo. Right now. We would all get slaughtered in a single day. We haven't expanded across multiple galaxies, we have no way of fighting them in their territory, and we only have nuclear weapons as a viable weapon that would work effectively in space (which would knock out our own electronics if we're not careful
).Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:36 pm to FT
Can anyone say definitively that modern man is the most advanced ever to roam the earth?
If we were wiped out tomorrow, how long would it take for all traces of us to be wiped away?
Thousands of years?
How do we know it hasn't happened before?
The earth has been here for billions of years. We might not be half as advanced as some prior iteration of earthlings.
If we were wiped out tomorrow, how long would it take for all traces of us to be wiped away?
Thousands of years?
How do we know it hasn't happened before?
The earth has been here for billions of years. We might not be half as advanced as some prior iteration of earthlings.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:38 pm to FT
Why does "The Great Filter" have to be portrayed as such a terrible thing? While it'd be disappointing if we never got very far out of our own neighborhood, it's not like it would kill us off. Yeah the sun is eventually going to burn out, but if we're talking on the scale of billions of years we'd have plenty of time to find suitable planets and set up colonies nearby.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:38 pm to FT
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Possibility 5) There’s one and only one instance of higher-intelligent life—a “superpredator” civilization (kind of like humans are here on Earth)—who is far more advanced than everyone else and keeps it that way by exterminating any intelligent civilization once they get past a certain level. This would suck. The way it might work is that it’s an inefficient use of resources to exterminate all emerging intelligences, maybe because most die out on their own. But past a certain point, the super beings make their move—because to them, an emerging intelligent species becomes like a virus as it starts to grow and spread. This theory suggests that whoever was the first in the galaxy to reach intelligence won, and now no one else has a chance. This would explain the lack of activity out there because it would keep the number of super-intelligent civilizations to just one.
I would hate to be alive on the day that they decided we have advanced enough and it's time to end us.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:39 pm to TigerinATL
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Why does "The Great Filter" have to be portrayed as such a terrible thing? While it'd be disappointing if we never got very far out of our own neighborhood, it's not like it would kill us off. Yeah the sun is eventually going to burn out, but if we're talking on the scale of billions of years we'd have plenty of time to find suitable planets and set up colonies nearby.
I don't think you understand what the great filter is. It ends us. Donezo. No matter if we are on one planet or 10. Because the great filter could be anything we know or don't know about yet that ends life.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:40 pm to forksup
Can't we all just get along?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:44 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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I don't think you understand what the great filter is. It ends us.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:46 pm to forksup
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Going along with the METI talk... Maybe we should keep to ourselves in our little solar system. Could you imagine running into a technologically superior, war-like alien species? Kind of a dumb analogy, but like Halo. Right now. We would all get slaughtered in a single day. We haven't expanded across multiple galaxies, we have no way of fighting them in their territory, and we only have nuclear weapons as a viable weapon that would work effectively in space (which would knock out our own electronics if we're not careful
brah, haven't you seen red dawn? we'd kick some communist alien arse.
WOLVERINES!
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:58 pm to FT
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My theory is that every civilization reaches the singularity before it contacts anyone and, since logic and reason are constants, every civilization decides not to contact everyone else.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:10 pm to Seven Costanza
Your mommy and daddy create technology. But one day, that technology gets to be smarter than them. So the technology starts to expand rapidly, making your mommy and daddy obsolete (that means they're more worthless than they used to be).
If your mommy and daddy's technology gets smarter than everyone, some people think it will completely change the way your mommy and daddy and even you live, forever.
Now, my idea is that on every planet, mommies and daddies invent technology, and that it always gets to be smarter than them. Since the technology is doing everything based on logic, all the technology will basically do all the same things, no matter what planet they're on. And all the planets will decide not to contact each other.
If this was too long and you didn't read it, basically, your mommy and daddy's toaster will one day hate you, if it doesn't already.
If your mommy and daddy's technology gets smarter than everyone, some people think it will completely change the way your mommy and daddy and even you live, forever.
Now, my idea is that on every planet, mommies and daddies invent technology, and that it always gets to be smarter than them. Since the technology is doing everything based on logic, all the technology will basically do all the same things, no matter what planet they're on. And all the planets will decide not to contact each other.
If this was too long and you didn't read it, basically, your mommy and daddy's toaster will one day hate you, if it doesn't already.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:16 pm to FT
And this my friends is why I believe in God. God created the vast expanse and it was set in motion by his spoken word. Nothing to see here... God.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:31 pm to rebeloke
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And this my friends is why I believe in God. God created the vast expanse and it was set in motion by his spoken word
And a god, or many gods, may have very well put all of this in motion. It's pretty awesome and gives us a lot to just think about.
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Nothing to see here... God
Oh wait, you're one of those. Nothing to see here.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:37 pm to FT
Is it weird/worth nothing that I came up with this theory before I even knew about it?
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