re: Study of Biggest Losers finds that the body wants and will fight to be Fat

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Calories in vs calories out are what matters

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isn't that what the article was saying? One body runs on idle at 2,000 cal/day and then other at 500 cal/day.

Yet, "that has no bearing, burn an extra 1,500"....how many miles is that one must walk per day to make up?

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Their male subjects burned 105 calories running, 52 walking

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Run ~15 miles per day to be the same? Is that the jist of what people here are saying?

"No, you could walk 30 miles instead"

thanks

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then you don't know what the frick you are doing. Do you track every single thing that goes in your mouth? do you even know what your TDEE is or even close to what it is? If not then quit being a whiny little bitch. look you aren't some special snowflake who defies the laws of thermodynamics. Calories in vs calories out are what matters. Quit making excuses for your fatness. Most of has been there, it sucks, do something about it.

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He's right. Kujo, you may be gaining muscle but if you're not noticing any kind of change in body composition (for the better) you're adding both muscle AND fat close to a linear rate.

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isn't that what the article was saying? One body runs on idle at 2,000 cal/day and then other at 500 cal/day.

Yet, "that has no bearing, burn an extra 1,500"....how many miles is that one must walk per day to make up?

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The article is specifically talking about contestants that went on the biggest loser. I already talked about why they have crashed metabolism. This has shite to do with you unless you have a thyroid problem that has not been addressed. You don't have some fricked up metabolism unless you have done like the biggest loser contestants did and went on some crazy 800 calorie diet for weeks on end and were working out for multiple hours a day.

What we are saying is go find a damn online calculator, like this one and find your damn TDEE. Now eat/burn 20% less calories than that for 2 weeks and weigh yourself again. If you lost, you are on the right track. If not adjust.

Again you aren't some special snowflake. and you have no clue about nutrition and fitness at all. quit arguing with those that do making every excuse in the book for yourself.

face it, you are fat and you need to do something about it. Its ok, I was fat as shite at one time (245lbs @ 5'10) and so were many others.

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DON'T LET YOURSELF GET FAT

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Should be the biggest takeaway from that article.

Just woke up, feeling all sluggish today, armed with the perfect excuse to not work out today(I have a dr's appt in a couple hours).


This thread has motivated me to make myself go workout today

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face it, you are fat and you need to do something about it

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yeah, I have been. Working out makes my shirts and shorts tighter. And as for my diet, I have a skinny, passive aggressive office manager who sits across the hall from me who was always checking on what I'm eating for lunch("that smells good, what is that?") and was giving me diet advice.

But every day(for 6 months) I showed her the cottage cheese at breakfast, and then the skinless chicken breast with cabbage/broccoli/cauliflower/turnip greens/spinach.....and now she doesn't offer me any advice anymore, but comments only about what I must be eating at night......calories in/calories out

But whatever, Like the doctor said, "If I followed you I'd find out where the calories are coming from."

I am completely out of ways to prove that I'm trying to others, and prove to myself that I'm not.

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isn't that what the article was saying? One body runs on idle at 2,000 cal/day and then other at 500 cal/day.

Yet, "that has no bearing, burn an extra 1,500"....how many miles is that one must walk per day to make up?

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No it's saying people who go from doing nothing to working out 8 hours a day and having their diet managed for them end up gaining it back when they go back to the real world

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In order to maintain this I have to eat, work-out, and live like this the rest of my life.

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So you're never cured, only in remission.

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So you're never cured, only in remission.

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Pretty much, but that's the cards I was dealt. I treat it like any sickness. My brother has Crohn's and has to eat a certain way the rest of his life. So do diabetics. I just gain weight and maintain it easier that most. Is what it is took me a long time to realize that and quit complaining about it and accept it. Does it suck? absolutely, but there is no way to fix it so I have to deal with it.

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Have you been checked for thyroid issues?

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yeah, no dice. I had elevated cortisol that could be cushing's which would make a frick load of sense. But the Dr(follow you calorie Doc), said that the second test said it wasn't high enough to be the issue supposedly (Nov 2015).

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This isn't 100% true either. I've lost over 100 pounds and I'm still loosing I haven't monitored my calorie count one time.

I've also spoken to doctors and nutritionist and learned what it was to put good food in your body. See the calorie thing is a good quick indicator but what it boils down to is eating food that your body can actually use.

for example a banana on average has 110 calories which is more than a 100 calorie bag of cookies. But there isn't anything in a cookie your body can do with it beside turn it into fat. Same goes for what people consider real foods, Bread, Rice, Pasta the only thing your body could do with that stuff is use it for quick energy if you are about to exert yourself.

If you limit everything you eat to nutrient rich foods. Good vegetables, Fruits, Lean meats. You really don't have to count calories.

Currenlty I am down 110 pounds I used to weight 400. I work out 4 days a week lifting only and no cardio. occasionally I will eat bad, but it is one meal every two weeks or so. Not a whole day every week like some diets allow for you.

Clean eating that is 90% of it. Keep in mind that there is some truth to the fact that your body will adjust and there might be a couple weeks were the number on the scale gets stagnant. But that is a normal thing.

As someone said earlier though you have to wrap your head around the fact this isn't a temporary fix. In order to maintain this I have to eat, work-out, and live like this the rest of my life.

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no offense but you don't know what you are talking about and neither do 99% of doctors. Sure when you are trying to get from 10%bf to 6% clean eating absolutely matters, but going from 400 to 280 it certainly does not at all. You are unintentionally eating less than you are burning, simple as that. Just because you are not tracking your calories doesn't mean you aren't practicing the concept. Your comment about a banana vs bag of cookies could not be more off base. Both contain fruitose in large amounts. Its a sugar that your body processes and stores in the liver as glycogen. Your body knows no difference other than the vitamins the banana provides and they are 100% treated the same way as the body. Now if you said bag of cookies and brown rice you would be somewhat correct but again its all about calories in vs calories out. Your body has a certain number of carbs it can store and after that you get spill over, but overall its still about calories.

if you want I can link dozens of studies that prove I am right. Hell go read the lean gains website and the iifym website and they have dozens already linked.

congrats on your weight loss. Its awesome and I really hope you keep it up. Also congrats on learning to make smart choices that keep your calories below what you are burning. If you learn nutrition you don't have to count every little thing.

btw lean meats.....well fats are good for you with animals fats being some of the best for you.

please don't take this as criticism because its not, its just the science/real world results don't go along with what you are saying.