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re: Study of Biggest Losers finds that the body wants and will fight to be Fat

Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:42 pm to


that is absolutely awesome results. You and Hulk should both be proud of the weight you have taken off, keep it up. and please come join in on the putthaforkdown thread on the F&D Board.

Have people running all kinds of different diets with different goals over there. Many are on keto and IF but have some running every different type. Mainly just encouraging each other to stay on track and answering questions/sharing experiences.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31507 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:45 pm to
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peanuts


sub that for something better. raw.

order some unpasteurized raw almonds online.

sunflower seeds, macadamia, walnuts, pecans, Brazil, pistachios, pumpkin seeds.

eta: watch your protein intake--it can actually lead to weight gain. go for the higher fat:protein ratio of these: macadamia/pecans.

This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31507 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:56 pm to
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the grilled chicken salad has 3 servings of crouton and 4 servings of dressing on it. In other words they fail to see the hidden calories.

But if you take most people to the supermarket and tell them to go get food for a really healthy meal, they will grab fruit, veggies and a lean meat. Nothing wrong with that. Its everything else that fricks them.


i agree with this.

However, they might not realize that a good high-fat, high-calorie olive oil and vinaigrette (sugar free of course) dressing on that salad is good for you and helps satiate cravings.

Or that "lean meat" isn't necessarily better for you (and your weight-loss goals) than fatty meat (e.g., eating skinless chicken breast over a fatty skin-on thigh isn't necessarily good).

Or that eating a bunch of today's fruit, which is loaded with sugar, can help keep you fat, even though it's still better than juice and obviously much better than sugar-added food and drink.

it's those kinds of subtleties that people often don't know about.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:59 pm to
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Or that eating a bunch of today's fruit, which is loaded with sugar, can help keep you fat, even though it's still better than juice and obviously much better than sugar-added food and drink.


agreed even though I eat fruit I try to keep it to 10% of my daily intake at most. Most days I skip it. And I don't keep it in the house except for frozen kind that I'll put a cup or two in my protein shakes.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31209 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:02 pm to
yea i agree that most don't realize that but if most people ate veggies, fruits and quality meats at every meal they would be so so so much better off than eating the processed junk they eat now.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:09 pm to
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yea i agree that most don't realize that but if most people ate veggies, fruits and quality meats at every meal they would be so so so much better off than eating the processed junk they eat now.




Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:11 pm to
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yea i agree that most don't realize that but if most people ate veggies, fruits and quality meats at every meal they would be so so so much better off than eating the processed junk they eat now.


I think most people realize it, they are just too lazy to do anything about it (raises hand) . I'm by no means a sub 10% body fat guy. I'm still a work in progress. I'd be 10#'s lighter if I had adopted a proper diet from the get go. Currently down 20#'s since November and could use 10#'s more before I feel like I'd be too skinny and eat more just to maintain weight. Reason I haven't gotten there is because training takes up a lot of time, work takes up a lot of time, and my toddler takes up a lot of time. Sometimes, my meal is just going to come from a box.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:14 pm to
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Sometimes, my meal is just going to come from a box.


You can brown a pound of lean turkey or ground beef in a couple of minutes bro.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:17 pm to
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work takes up a lot of time, and my toddler takes up a lot of time


My brother has this problem too I take for granted single with not kids is a little easier. I've been working with him last couple of months. He's really eager now that I'm close to his size lol. I'm trying to develop more things he can do at home. I'm by no means a trainer I've just done a lot of research and hope to be an inspiration to some.

I'm one of the people that have dealt with this their whole life. I was over 300 at 5' 10" when I was 15 years old I'm 36 now. I've never been under 275 in my entire adult life. That keeps me motivated as much as doing it for me. If I can do it at my age after fighting it my whole life then anyone can.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31209 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:20 pm to
see i have 3 kids all 5 and under and I cook for them every night so I guess I take for granted that cooking is just a thing I do.

But honestly in 2 hours on a sunday you should be able to meal prep for the week. 3 max. or you could just get a smoker or cajun microwave and cook up a few pounds of meat and then fire up the grill with a ton of cut up veggies and cook them like that pretty easily while making a day of being outside.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31507 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:21 pm to
yep and yep, to both replies.

i just joined the putdownthefork thread on FDB.

things the OP article (i mean the NYT Biggest Loser piece) doesn't discuss much if at all are: food and nutrition eduction (beyond just BS click-bait) and support from friends and family (even online "friends").
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:23 pm to
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You can brown a pound of lean turkey or ground beef in a couple of minutes bro.


I do this 3 nights a week.

One night that lean turkey goes in taco mix with cheese, sauce, etc. . I do sometimes skip taco shells and just eat it with spinach leaves as a salad.

Next time is spaghetti (actually use Italian turkey sausage).

Next might be sloppy joes or some shite.

I never really have fatty meats. It's getting the veggies that is hard. Wife and I are both picky eaters, and keeping fresh veggies around is a little more difficult. Steamed broccoli or green beans from a can are going to be in about half our meals, but macaroni and cheese from a box will be in the other half.

If I was that worried about my body image, I'd care more. But I'm not. At least not at this point. I'm about to go jump in a lap pool in lycra jammer shorts. I've learned to get over what I look like


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But honestly in 2 hours on a sunday you should be able to meal prep for the week. 3 max


There's no doubt about this. It's a "lazy" concept to not do it. Not saying it can't be done at all. I just don't do it. I fully accept that I'm being lazy.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31209 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:24 pm to
yea support is defiantly needed in some form. Even most bodybuilders go online to the forums because it helps to talk to others going through the same thing or they find people in the gym to talk to.

and god yes to the nutrition education part. man if people would only lol. Its so frustrating that the normal person doesn't even know what a macro nutrient is. I honestly don't understand how somebody can take biology and health in HS and not know that.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31209 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:25 pm to
crock pot can be your best friend too. dont forget about it.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:40 pm to
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crock pot can be your best friend too. dont forget about it.


I also bought a dehydrator and make a months worth of jerky at a time and put it in the freezer. That is my lunch at work nearly every day. Crock pot meals are delicious, healthy and easy.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8819 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:46 pm to
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see i have 3 kids all 5 and under and I cook for them every night so I guess I take for granted that cooking is just a thing I do.


Word.

I have 4 kids and our household is pretty health focused.

Sunday we have a "curfew" of 2pm. We have to be home, prepping and chilling by this time. In warm weather, that means hanging out on the deck grilling a shite ton of food for the week. It's actually pretty relaxing this way.

I usually grill an assortment of meats on sunday, make a batch of coconut flour waffles, prep a crock pot for Monday, and prep/wash veggies. Egg muffins, frittatas for week day breakfasts, too.

Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2869 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:47 pm to
Its the over weight kids that get me. They really have no chance if their parents dont know how to eat healthy. when I go shopping I see buggy after buggy filled with so much processed food and high sugar soda and almost zero vegetables. I just look at the parents and think you are killing your kids. Thats one reason I think food stamps should be restricted to certain foods, like vegetables, fruits and non processed proteins.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:58 pm to
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Its the over weight kids that get me. They really have no chance if their parents dont know how to eat healthy. when I go shopping I see buggy after buggy filled with so much processed food and high sugar soda and almost zero vegetables.


lot of truth here. I suffered from this growing up pantry full of cereal, little debbies and potato chips. I don't blame my parents though they were just as uneducated on nutrition at the time. Poor health killed my father at 54 and we was never obese but that didn't mean he was healthy as I've since found out.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:59 pm to
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But honestly in 2 hours on a sunday you should be able to meal prep for the week. 3 max. or you could just get a smoker or cajun microwave and cook up a few pounds of meat and then fire up the grill with a ton of cut up veggies and cook them like that pretty easily while making a day of being outside.




You can add bagged veggies and greens to any protein source (I make in bulk on the weekend and mid week = things like steak, salmon, etc) You can also do cool things with kale/spinach/bacon/ham and eggs in a skillet.


I use the following as a topping (note you can sub in any cheese/seasonings you like)

blue cheese dressing

½ cup + 2 tablespoons heavy cream
1 ¼ ounces rogue smokey blue cheese (or good blue cheese), plus ½ cup crumbled
pinch of crushed red-pepper flakes
coarse salt
½ cup sour cream

make the blue cheese dressing: place heavy cream, 1 ¼ ounces blue cheese, salt and red-pepper flakes into a medium saucepan; cook over medium-high heat, stirring, until blue cheese is melted. remove from heat and fold in sour cream and remaining ½ cup crumbled blue cheese; set aside.

Or just used melted butter/olive oil

It helps if you like to cook (a very undervalued skill in our society)
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43300 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:04 pm to
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starting

400lbs
58 waist
5xl shirt

Now
285 lbs
48 waist
3xl shirts (I can fit in a 2x standing but when i sit down yeah not an attractive look for sure)




Amazing work. Keep it up!
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