re: Spinoff Thread: What's your choice for day to day carry?

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mainly because I fear the temptation to turn a non deadly situation into a deadly one

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What are you talking about? You shouldnt pull your CC out unless it's a deadly situation.

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Once you pull the gun out, shite gets real. I'd rather comply

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Again, what are you talking about? If you are forced to pull your CC, shite has already gotten real and you are defending your life.

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And the argument, well sometimes they still kill you, well in most of those cases, they will shoot you before you have time to react anyways

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Oh, well in that case just let them shove their gun up your arse too while theyre at it.

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I'm talking about an otherwise non deadly situation, like perhaps an armed robbery where the burglar wasn't really planning on killing you, just using the gun to scare you, but then you pull a gun then all of a sudden shots are being fired.

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The problem though is you have no idea what his intentions are in that situation. Sure you don't want to try and draw your weapon if he's right in front of you and already has his gun pointed at your chest. But if the opportunity presents itself* then you drop him with quickness.

* - This goes to the training I've been talking about, knowing when to and when not to draw you weapon That, along with being able to quickly and safely draw it.

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I'm talking about an otherwise non deadly situation, like perhaps an armed robbery where the burglar wasn't really planning on killing you, just using the gun to scare you, but then you pull a gun then all of a sudden shots are being fired.

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So you know a criminals intent if he's trying to rob you with a gun in your face? You obviously have to use your better judgement if ever confronted with such a situation, but to refuse to carry because you dont want a already extremely deadly situation to escalate into a potentialy even more deadly situation is pretty asinine.

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What are you talking about now?

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You basically just said "by the time I would have to draw my gun there's a high probability that I'd already be shot and killed anyway. Just comply."

While just complying may be the right course of action in some instances, you cant possibly know that and no one else does either. While you cant automatically draw in any situation, you'd much rather at least have the option should it come to that. You should always want to give yourself a fighting chance to eliminate the threat, and that is a mentality thing. If you have the mentality of "just comply", then youve already lost. Like I said, may as well let them sodomize you too since youve already made up your mind to succomb to any and all threat. I cannot fathom how anyone could just bow down and say "kill me".

Why would you wear your seatbelt on the interstate? If you get into a car accident going 70 mph you more than likely wouldnt survive anyway right? Because you at least have a fighting chance. That's why.

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So you know a criminals intent if he's trying to rob you with a gun in your face?

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obviously not, but I'll play the percentage game and hope that the one robbing me isn't a homicidal maniac

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Like I said, may as well let them sodomize you too since youve already made up your mind to succomb to any and all threat. I cannot fathom how anyone could just bow down and say "kill me".

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Not what I said at all.

I just said that the situations in which you are describing are so low, that I just don't see the need.

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Why would you wear your seatbelt on the interstate? If you get into a car accident going 70 mph you more than likely wouldnt survive anyway right? Because you at least have a fighting chance. That's why.

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Horrible comparison.

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situation, like perhaps an armed robbery where the burglar wasn't really planning on killing you, just using the gun to scare you, but then you pull a gun then all of a sudden shots are being fire

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Wow. You put a lot of trust in a stranger likely a thug committing a felony and threatening your life with a gun.

Your choice.

Just perfect for day to day activities.









Oh guns. Glock .40 in my car. S&W .38 special in the Mrs.'s

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I just said that the situations in which you are describing are so low, that I just don't see the need.

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The situations are very low for men. All the men on this board carry because they can. I would love to hear some stories from people on the board where having a concealed weapon helped the situation. Not saying they don't exist, but that's a pretty low number. Men are not good targets for criminals. If they are, it's because they are smaller than their attacker, 80+ years old, or there's a group of attackers.

Women, on the other hand, are the one's who should carry. They are in most criminals' target demographic. Women need something to stop someone bigger than them. (mase and tasers have low range & stopping power.) I would also like to see a jury in the south take an armed robber's side over a woman defending herself.

So, you're right. You don't really need a carry piece for day to day life. You should, however, get one for your wife and make her confident in having/ using it.

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So, you're right. You don't really need a carry piece for day to day life. You should, however, get one for your wife and make her confident in having/ usi

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Well said. And the need to train her properly in safe and proficient use of her firearm cannot be over stressed. Just having a pistol does little good and perhaps a lot of harm if she cannot carry, care for, and use it safely.

Glock 23

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there isn't enough crime here to warrant the risk of carrying a weapon

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For all the one's who posted in this thread today who think they live in a magic bubble that protects them from crime.....

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HOOVER, AL (WBRC) -
An Iraq war veteran and married father of two was shot to death in front of his Hoover home while he was on his way to go work out at the gym early Tuesday morning.

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Hoover police believe Gilotti's death may be connected to a series of at least 10 car break-ins that were reported in the same neighborhood.

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LINK

As for the neighborhood....

... that's his house and his car.

Here's a Google street view where you can see more of this neighborhhod

Looks like homes in this neighborhood range from a little under $200K on the low end to over $700K on the high end.

So this guy moves in to a very upscale subdivision and he is still gunned down in his own front yard by some piece of shite thug looking to break into cars.