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re: For all those with single digit IQs on Jones Creek
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:56 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:56 pm to LNCHBOX
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I'm pretty sure I know just a teeny bit more than you do about the subject of traffic flow. I notice you still never said what credentials you have that validates your opinions.
You're acting like you know more but I don't see your credentials anywhere in this thread
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Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:56 pm to bayoubengals88
The better question is what kind of dumbass still uses Jones Creek? That intersection when you're driving towards Coursey from I-12 is Satan's a-hole.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:56 pm to bayoubengals88
Wait...there are other people on the road besides me?
Posted on 8/19/16 at 5:23 pm to bayoubengals88
I drive on the shoulder in those situations.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 5:26 pm to Upperdecker
quote:Your'e extremely ignorant and unteachable. I hope your children (present or future) are capable of learning. That's the only way this world will improve.
So I should wait in line and you should get to zoom past me? NO, frick you. The right lane merges INTO the left lane, therefore the left lane controls who gets in. Get in line behind me and everyone else, you aren't special, and you don't get to skip in line
Posted on 8/19/16 at 5:28 pm to Jim Rockford
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I'm not letting some nimrod
They aren't the nimrod. You are.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:11 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Irrelevant, but I sure hope you have nothing to do with roads or traffic.
What do you do for a living again?
quote:No, it actually moves slower with zipper merging because of caterpillar effect close to the zipper merge point.
As in, you think one line of cars holding up traffic 10 miles back instead of two lines of cars only taking up half the space will move at the same rate?
quote:Way the frick back from the merge point even if it's in another state.
And when do you want people to get in this long arse single file line?
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:18 pm to ProjectP2294
Good thing is there's always someone on their phone not paying attention. Look for the Range Rover or sorority stickers and boom, there's your merge point.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:09 pm to slackster
The solution is that they need to fix the lane because it was not bad in the first place and now they can practically harvest sod from the hole they left...
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:42 pm to bayoubengals88
Nearly found out the hard way last month that zipper merging is not a thing in Oklahoma.
Even an ambulance driver was trying to block people from using the full capacity of the highway prior to the mandatory merge point.
Even an ambulance driver was trying to block people from using the full capacity of the highway prior to the mandatory merge point.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 6:04 am to bayoubengals88
By the way, this method is intended for a situation like you described. It is NOT for a turn or exit lane.
I'm looking at you, people who use the Acadian Exit past the 10/12 split and the I-12 turnaround exit when traffic is backed up. You fools are only making it worse. Not to mention you've made me come to a complete stop when I was using the lane to legitimately exit on Acadian or get on I-12.
I'm looking at you, people who use the Acadian Exit past the 10/12 split and the I-12 turnaround exit when traffic is backed up. You fools are only making it worse. Not to mention you've made me come to a complete stop when I was using the lane to legitimately exit on Acadian or get on I-12.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:21 am to ProjectP2294
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I mean, are you fricking running for mayor?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:56 am to AlxTgr
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No, it actually moves slower with zipper merging because of caterpillar effect close to the zipper merge point.
I'd love to see a shred of proof of this.
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Way the frick back from the merge point even if it's in another state.
That's retarded.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:57 am to RealityTiger
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By the way, this method is intended for a situation like you described. It is NOT for a turn or exit lane.
I'm looking at you, people who use the Acadian Exit past the 10/12 split and the I-12 turnaround exit when traffic is backed up. You fools are only making it worse. Not to mention you've made me come to a complete stop when I was using the lane to legitimately exit on Acadian or get on I-12.
Legit criticism.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:15 am to Teddy Ruxpin
This is the dumbest argument ever. Look at the spacing in the last picture. If that spacing exists in any event of those scenarios, then efficient merging would take place in every option. But it doesn't. What the drawing fails to show, is that the most likely scenario in real life is that the proper spacing usually exists further back from the merge point, and tighter spacing the closers you get due to people slowing down due to the hazard/merge. So if there are signs saying left lane closed, and there is better spacing further back in the line, then more efficient merging would take place there.
This idea of using the lane as long as possible doesn't make sense if there is always a choke point. The volumetric flow rate of traffic will always be limited by the choke point. And the more hazards that exist at the single choke point, the slower traffic will have to be at that point. So therefore, people will go slower at the single merge point at the very last second due to all cars trying to merge at the last second with the tightest car spacing.
The drawing may be accurate, but in no way exhibits real life and in no way makes it better than the other options if you allow those options to have the drivers act with the same civility. You know when people are being assholes (especially when they take advantage of someone who's trying to let every other car go, but they're just going to take that time to cut in as well).
This idea of using the lane as long as possible doesn't make sense if there is always a choke point. The volumetric flow rate of traffic will always be limited by the choke point. And the more hazards that exist at the single choke point, the slower traffic will have to be at that point. So therefore, people will go slower at the single merge point at the very last second due to all cars trying to merge at the last second with the tightest car spacing.
The drawing may be accurate, but in no way exhibits real life and in no way makes it better than the other options if you allow those options to have the drivers act with the same civility. You know when people are being assholes (especially when they take advantage of someone who's trying to let every other car go, but they're just going to take that time to cut in as well).
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:17 am to KG6
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The drawing may be accurate, but in no way exhibits real life
That's the issue. You have several people in this thread that are too stubborn to drive in a more efficient way because "frick the other guy" pretty much.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:20 am to ProjectP2294
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So many people seem unable or unwilling to grasp this concept.
The "zipper" concept is designed for MOVING traffic (hence the reference to maintaining speed)!!! The idiots in the right lane are rude, lazy, impatient, morons.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:21 am to KG6
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This idea of using the lane as long as possible doesn't make sense if there is always a choke point. The volumetric flow rate of traffic will always be limited by the choke point. And the more hazards that exist at the single choke point, the slower traffic will have to be at that point. So therefore, people will go slower at the single merge point at the very last second due to all cars trying to merge at the last second with the tightest car spacing.
This is the logic that I usually support when there is a lane closure on the interstate, especially when the volume of the traffic is below capacity in less urban areas and you still end up with a bottleneck. However on a surface street I like zipper merge because it can basically be thought of as an auxiliary through lane. At some point upstream it should have a positive influence.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:02 am to DollaChoppa
Article on this. LINK
The problem is people aren't taught what to do. Here is what MN tried. The State
If the MN folks can't do it despite all that, our morons will never figure it out. They're still perplexed by the Alexandria traffic circles.
Some good news: a survey found that 45 percent of drivers 25 to 34 are comfortable with the zipper merge, compared to just eight percent of seniors.
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By using every foot of the space available, the zipper merge cuts congestion by 40 percent, Minnesota officials say. It reduces the likelihood of crashes because everyone’s moving at the same speed, which is better than seeing a lane of slowpokes alongside a lane of leadfoots zipping past.
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Part of the problem is awareness. Not many states vocally encourage the zipper merge, so every newcomer has to learn the rules.
The problem is people aren't taught what to do. Here is what MN tried. The State
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quietly promoted the zipper merge for nearly a decade before it decided to stage a full-out media blitz. In 2011, to convince nice drivers to do the efficient thing, Minnesota started peppering highways with billboards and instructive signs.
It ran PSAs on the local news. It made YouTube videos. It claimed dothezippermerge.org and filled it with how-to’s.
It also cheated a bit, moving the “left lane closed ahead” signs closer to the closure. It made signs that say “begin merge, take turns,” right where it’s supposed to happen.
If the MN folks can't do it despite all that, our morons will never figure it out. They're still perplexed by the Alexandria traffic circles.
Some good news: a survey found that 45 percent of drivers 25 to 34 are comfortable with the zipper merge, compared to just eight percent of seniors.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:08 am to Twenty 49
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compared to just eight percent of seniors.
dumbass old people
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