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re: For all those with single digit IQs on Jones Creek

Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am to
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am to
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You literally just proved my point. Why limit yourself to 1 lane when there are multiple lanes to use up until your merger point


Because at the merger point, there is no option. The merge must take place, or cars must stop. Stopping is obviously bad. Whereas beginning your attempt to merge earlier gives you ample opportunity to get over without having to stop. someone doesn't let you in or you just can't, you still have another shot. Wait till the last second and you and the person next to you will be wayyyyyyyy more likely to have to come to a crawl for you to get over.

It may be that human nature is a cause, but I'd say that's still a big factor and you will never work it out of the equation.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107396 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:55 pm to
There are so many ways to almost totally avoid Jones Creek. No way would I try to travel it from Tiger Bend to Coursey or vice versa right now.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:18 pm to
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This is objectively false.


If ask for proof of this, but I already know you're not going to provide any.


Anyone with common sense that has been in traffic understands this. You have made zero points in this thread. You assert nothing. You understand none of what is being discussed
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84049 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:18 pm to
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Anyone with common sense that has been in traffic understands this. You have made zero points in this thread. You assert nothing. You understand none of what is being discussed


Thanks for proving me right. All you've said is "I drive so I know stuff."
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Because at the merger point, there is no option. The merge must take place, or cars must stop. Stopping is obviously bad. Whereas beginning your attempt to merge earlier gives you ample opportunity to get over without having to stop. someone doesn't let you in or you just can't, you still have another shot. Wait till the last second and you and the person next to you will be wayyyyyyyy more likely to have to come to a crawl for you to get over.

It may be that human nature is a cause, but I'd say that's still a big factor and you will never work it out of the equation.

How are they not getting this?
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49492 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:25 pm to
bayoubengals88 this applies to Hwy 42 drivers in Prairieville as well
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:32 pm to
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Thanks for proving me right.
You've not asserting anything other than "Zipper merging good"
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84049 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:34 pm to
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You've not asserting anything other than "Zipper merging good"


And you've don nothing but piggyback off someone more intelligent on the subject matter than yourself, all the while being wrong with your conclusions. Then when someone questions you for any evidence, you call names and say nothing more than "I drive, so I know." You aren't fooling anyone.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:37 pm to
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And you've don nothing but piggyback off someone more intelligent on the subject matter than yourself
Revision. Go back and read. Now you're just being dishonest. I though we could have a discussion of this, but all you want to do is attack. You're a fricking douche.
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Then when someone questions you for any evidence, you call names and say nothing more than "I drive, so I know." You aren't fooling anyone.
You're reading your posts, not mine. Here are some names: moron, idiot, liar, fricking dishonest trash.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:38 pm to
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But cutting cars into the merge lane at the end doesn't help anyone get where they need to be.
Wrong. Using as much capacity of the roadway as possible speeds everything up.
It absolutely does not. Every car must pass by that one spot. It does nothing at all good.


Hi lnchbox.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84049 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:39 pm to
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Revision. Go back and read. Now you're just being dishonest. I though we could have a discussion of this, but all you want to do is attack. You're a fricking douche.


You're the guy attacking whens someone asks you to back up your claim. If something is "objectively false," you should be able to easily show that. We both know you can't, which is why you're just shitting out insults instead of actually saying anything relevant.

quote:

You're reading your posts, not mine


I'm sure that was much funnier in your head.

quote:

Here are some names: moron, idiot, liar, fricking dishonest trash.


Congrats, that's as useful as anything else you've said in this thread.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:39 pm to
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When you know the lane is closed a mile ahead because of construction or whatever, and everybody else has moved over, and you zoom all the way up to where the barricade is, I'm not letting you in. Sorry.



That makes you an idiot

quote:

The bottleneck is already there


So you increase the distance of the bottleneck?

Way more efficient

LINK
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 4:42 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84049 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

But cutting cars into the merge lane at the end doesn't help anyone get where they need to be.
Wrong. Using as much capacity of the roadway as possible speeds everything up.
It absolutely does not. Every car must pass by that one spot. It does nothing at all good.

quote:

Hi lnchbox.



Your conclusions there are wrong. There is more to account for besides the one spot where everyone must pass.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33293 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:40 pm to
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They just have a rule of thumb or chart to go off of. So when I keep hearing "it's the most efficient", but there's no detailed fundamental explanation as to why that makes the zipper appreciably more efficient


It's not hard to understand. The farther back the zipper happens, the longer an unnecessary single lane is created, the longer the line extends back through previous intersections, etc. etc.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:42 pm to
Have you ever joxied? Are really this lacking in self-awareness? Do you have a disability you are not disclosing? Please, take your time.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84049 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Have you ever joxied? Are really this lacking in self-awareness? Do you have a disability you are not disclosing? Please, take your time.


blah blah blah, nothing important at all, blah blah blah.

You better hope KG6 posts again so you can try to piggyback off him some more.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:46 pm to
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You better hope KG6 posts again so you can try to piggyback off him some more.


You're continuing with this lie? Damn you're a terrible human being.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84049 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:49 pm to
And you're terrible at making points.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:53 pm to
please change title of OP to "Zipper Merge >>> Merging Early (facts)(srs)"
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:04 pm to
i've posted about zipper merging in 3 or 4 threads in the past. Sited articles, numbers, facts, etc., but it doesn't do any good. Nevertheless...

KDOT introduces zipper merge for US 69 project

@ 0:52
"It makes meh angreh"

@ 1:35
"Backup times and distances were cut in half"
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