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re: Electric cars save gas. Don't ask how long the tires last....

Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9393 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:16 pm to
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Heavy arse vehicles need tires more often


THIS. These electric cars weigh too much.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24601 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:19 pm to
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EVs take off faster than normal cars. Kids need to quit spinning their tires.


You don’t know how evs work do you?
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 8:20 pm
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
6370 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:20 pm to
A new model S weighs 5000 pounds, goes 0-60 in 2s to 3s, has a track camber on the low height setting which destroys the inner part of the wheel at medium setting (most common on most roads), and uses specialized softer rubber tires. Good luck lasting more than a year with that setup.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 8:21 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6664 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:21 pm to
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some premium tires suggested for EVs use softer rubber and have foam injected inside that dampens the sound, akin to trading out hard dress shoes for tennis shoes. Those soft textured tires, while quieter, also can wear down faster.

wait, so you are telling me different tires have different lifespans



what's next? different types of oil for different engines? diesel engines needing fluids that gas vehicles don't?


Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
3156 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:23 pm to
How do tire prices compare with conventional?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27104 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:25 pm to
I love that in the same post, it says that EV tires last 20% as long, but also only wear down 20% faster.

That math ain’t mathing the way OP appears to think it does
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6213 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:28 pm to
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I love that in the same post, it says that EV tires last 20% as long, but also only wear down 20% faster.


I believe the article is stating that different tires wear at different rates. But overall, EV's go through tires more often than ICE vehicles with excess weight being the biggest factor.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6664 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:28 pm to
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I love that in the same post, it says that EV tires last 20% as long, but also only wear down 20% faster.

That math ain’t mathing the way OP appears to think it does

these threads are weird to me. It's like they can't afford an EV so they have to come up with reasons to feel better about not owning one.

"my neighbor bought a 110" TV. that shite uses 20% more electricity than my 30" LED! What a sucker!"
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27104 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:31 pm to
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I believe the article is stating that different tires wear at different rates. But overall, EV's go through tires more often than ICE vehicles with excess weight being the biggest factor


I know what the article is saying; I’m poking fun at OP. I can’t imagine anyone on this board gives a single frick about their tires wearing 20% faster than they otherwise would. Yet OP thinks this is some huge gotcha
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2130 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:33 pm to
I think the reason you get threads like this is not necessarily a hatred of EVs. It's the mandates being proposed by the government, and the hypocrisy of EV proponents when they claim they are saving the environment.

Between tires, batteries, and generating electricity for charging, EVs are at best a net neutral vs ICE vehicles
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27104 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:41 pm to
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Between tires, batteries, and generating electricity for charging, EVs are at best a net neutral vs ICE vehicles


I don’t own an EV, but every time I’m driving behind a vehicle, big or small, belching out black foul smelling bullshite, I hope that EVs replace the fricking lot of them.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
6370 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:45 pm to
A set of 4 tires on a current stock model S is $3000.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12557 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:47 pm to
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Between tires, batteries, and generating electricity for charging, EVs are at best a net neutral vs ICE vehicles

From a cost to operate perspective? They’re still cheaper. It’s not a massive gap for normal driving. Fleets are a different story and the ga is larger but it’s not neutral.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13400 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:51 pm to
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Don't ask how long the tires last.



Can’t say I’m surprised. I guess the torque and its delivery is harder on tires.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10620 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:51 pm to
I’m a Soviet Cartographer.
—-Comrade!
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27104 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:58 pm to
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Can’t say I’m surprised. I guess the torque and its delivery is harder on tires.


Depends on how you drive it. I have a hybrid, so I can span the spectrum. I can put it in sport mode which fully utilizes both the battery and the ICE to power the drive train and leave rubber on the pavement, or I can lay off, drive like I have a pot of gumbo on my floorboard and get 55mpg. Completely up to me. Car will simply give me what I ask for.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27451 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:05 pm to
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The excessive weight of an EV wears everything out much faster….


4 door altima 3500lbs...dry.

4 door tesla 3900lbs.

My truck, 6600lbs

You're so full of shite your eyes are brown.



I have no intention of ever going electric, but the factory tires on all electric will have the same issue as any factory GM or Ford tire. It is engineered for comfort, quiet, and handling. Puncture resistance and longevity are not their concern.

Nissan had to completely reengineer the mirrors and the wipers on the original LEAF. When there is minimal mechanical noise... Simple wind noise, tire noise, and electric accessories seem deafening
Posted by Cajun367
S. Louisiana
Member since Oct 2017
1929 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:07 pm to
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My original set on my Jeep Grand Cherokee went almost 90k.


And I bet they totally weren't dry rotted or slicker than owl shite....

How much of a cheap arse do you have to be to do stupid shite like this?

Theres ONE thing making contact with the ground on a vehicle. Tires. Never understood how this was area of car ownership people cheaper out on.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27104 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:14 pm to
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4 door altima 3500lbs...dry. 4 door tesla 3900lbs. My truck, 6600lbs


A few months ago, my FIL was railing against EVs and citing to their weight damaging the roads. I pointed out that his SUV weighed more than the EV cars he was railing against. He changed the subject
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48642 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:16 pm to
I've never gotten more than about 40k out of a set of tires. I don't care if they were rated for 60k. Once mine start rubbing into the wear bar they are replaced.
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