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re: Do you believe the founding fathers would be happy with the way the USA is today

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Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:32 pm to
I think GW would say its about right based on the two party system, and how everyone is either an extreme liberal or an extreme conservative these days and both sides say the other side is insane and stupid and wants to take over the world.


other than that, they'd probably be shocked at the growth.
Posted by XxDRS
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:43 pm to
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You are truly a moron. BTW...when you quote people, please do it in full. Nit picking what people say for your arguments reinforces that you are a true moron.


Holy shite dude. It's a holiday so I'll throw you a bone. We're on the same side here I was just being a bit sarcastic and (attempting to be) humorous to prove a point.
The hero worship of the founding fathers is dangerous because it's a diversion from actual arguments. We should be trying to make a great nation now not worrying about what a bunch of irrelevant people said a long time ago. You can learn a lot from studying Socrates but you wouldn't make legislation based on his teachings.
Posted by XxDRS
Member since Jan 2014
243 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:43 pm to
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You are truly a moron. BTW...when you quote people, please do it in full. Nit picking what people say for your arguments reinforces that you are a true moron.


Holy shite dude. It's a holiday so I'll throw you a bone. We're on the same side here I was just being a bit sarcastic and (attempting to be) humorous to prove a point.
The hero worship of the founding fathers is dangerous because it's a diversion from actual arguments. We should be trying to make a great nation now not worrying about what a bunch of irrelevant people said a long time ago. You can learn a lot from studying Socrates but you wouldn't make legislation based on his teachings.

Double post. Don't care stuck my balls. I'm taking a shite at a fourth of July barbeque.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:43 pm to
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Do you believe the founding fathers would be happy with the way the USA is today

Who gives a shite
Posted by XxDRS
Member since Jan 2014
243 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:47 pm to
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Who gives a shite


Is that a question? Or are you saying that someone named "who" actually gives a shite?

Poor punctuation is probably the thing about which the founding fathers would be most upset.
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 6:29 am
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:52 pm to
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They could not conceive of how the First Amendment might work in an age of the internet.

They likely could not conceive of how the Second has worked.

They'd be surprised that the Third has been as of little importance as it has.

They'd have trouble grasping the Fourth in an age of electronic surveillance.

Many of them would be stunned that slaves are free and that women can vote. Only a few would think that is right.

The one thing they would recognize is the jury trial. If you put the founding fathers today in a courtroom, they would understand exactly what was happening (although they would be surprised to see women on the jury). They would recognize instantly an impartial judge with twelve people in the box and a witness stand. They probably would even know a lot of the rules of evidence.



Who the frick down voted this ?!?!?
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:53 pm to
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Who cares? They are dead, and we inherited the country. Just do good things.




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Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14564 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:57 pm to
Let my people go
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 11:48 pm to
They would be estatic. We were a fledging country continuously fighting off bankruptcy in our infancy. Now we are the world super power.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
10037 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 11:54 pm to
Those guys sucked more cock than Richard Simmons, and they spread their disease like wildfire; not to mention they were mutineers -- they would say we went soft.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 2:55 am to
They would be aghast at the scope of our imperialism.
Posted by Tiger Bawlz
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Member since Dec 2007
1977 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 6:27 am to
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Do you believe the founding fathers would be happy with the way the USA is today


Sure. They designed the President's mansion and named it The White House. Is that racist today?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98468 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 7:16 am to
No.

frick no.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 10:19 am to
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CrimsonTideMD


quote:

Who would downvote this?


My guess is the gun nuts. I mentioned the Second Amendment without declaring a blood oath that it protects individual ownership of multiple warhead nuclear missiles. They can't abide that.

Know what's funny? I have a far bigger arsenal than almost any of these nitwits. I'm talking about an OT Baller level gun collection. And yet these special forces wannabes with a cheap nine mil in the glove box scream at me about gun rights.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31882 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 11:07 am to
our founding fathers had wooden teeth, many kept slaves, and some even died of STDs.

they may be disappointed, but for reasons far different than simpltons think.....
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41859 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 11:49 am to
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The would be happy today because I shot 13 over with a triple, 2 doubles and a 3 putt bogie this morning


What did you do on the Back 9?
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76173 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 12:12 pm to
I'm sure the Fathers would approve of locking up women who frick 17 yr old boys, and adults who possess certain non-toxic plant leaves. I can see that. We're bludgeoned with freedom in this country.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 12:27 pm to
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by namvet6566 Your grandparents, great, and great, great are very angry at the fricking liberals who have ruined our country, not going to ruin it, it is gone. A Muslim is in charge, a murderer may be the next President. A battle flag which thousands died for is taken away. The pussies who are supposed to protect us are fricking us. A small businessman can opt not to bake a cake and get sued, and lose their business. This great Country is not so great now, we are fricked.
America was better when we kept retards like you locked up.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54476 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 12:31 pm to
I don't know why there were not amendments to the Constitution that would have allowed alittle underage sex from female OT 7's or >. An I thought these guys were visionaries
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 12:35 pm to
Ben Franklin tried.
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