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re: Do you believe the founding fathers would be happy with the way the USA is today

Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by FourthQuarter
Member since Sep 2014
2228 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:47 pm to
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and hate how dumb society on a whole is

this is just ridiculous

Just our mentally challenged citizens could go head to head with the average citizen from the founding father's days
Posted by baylorbaiter
Too close to Waco
Member since Apr 2015
1494 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:49 pm to
No.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95341 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:12 pm to
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If the Founding Fathers could see what we've become, they'd have just said frick and stuck with ole King George.
Great point you dumb shitstain. Modern day England def has it figured out
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:28 pm to
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I am gonna say probably not. I think they would probably be happy that we are still here and that we are a world power. I think morality that this is where our founding fathers would have the most objections. Your thoughts? Not giving political views here but I just think the word "honor" has been lost.


You hit it dead on the nail.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68281 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:34 pm to
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they'd laugh at the religious right with their "founded on Christian principles" narrative


I don't believe so. There is a difference between founded on Christian principles and enforcement of Christian laws which is what I believe the Left thinks the right means.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 6:37 pm
Posted by Mr. Fantasy
Member since May 2012
83 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:46 pm to
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Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58139 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:54 pm to
My life is pretty damn good. I'm happy.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:55 pm to
I think they would think it was pretty fricking great.

There has never been a better time to be alive.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:56 pm to
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There is a difference between founded on Christian principles and enforcement of Christian laws which is what I believe the Left thinks the right means.


That is because it is what a significant chunk of the right means.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 7:09 pm to
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I think they actually would be happy despite obviously being baffled in the way our country, along with every nation in the world has changed. When America was founded it was a pure experiment. Despite optimism, no one really knew if it could work long term. On several occasions the whole thing nearly collapsed. Today it is by far the most powerful and prestigious nation on earth. We rival the ancient citizens of Rome in terms of the status that comes with our nationality. There is no other nation on earth that can come close to the combination of wealth and liberty our nation offers. I believe the founders would understand that change was inevitable to respond to such a drastically changing world.

Did you just post from the 1980´s?
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22118 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 7:14 pm to
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I am gonna say probably not. I think they would probably be happy that we are still here and that we are a world power. I think morality that this is where our founding fathers would have the most objections. Your thoughts? Not giving political views here but I just think the word "honor" has been lost.


I'm fairly certain they'd be ashamed and embarrassed of what this country has become.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:40 pm to
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Just our mentally challenged citizens could go head to head with the average citizen from the founding father's days


Except for the fact that 90% of our society has instant information and answers at our fingertips, but couldn't tell you were Mongolia was on a map. Or probably France, Germany, ir the UK.

I would guys our mentally challenged citizens couldn't last a month back then. They would need a microwave.
Posted by Tiger Chemist
Member since Nov 2009
2872 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:42 pm to
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Yes it most certainly does. Every decision we make today should be based on the hypothetical opinions of men who couldn't understand modern issues. If you don't ask what Thomas Jefferson thought about campaign finance reform then you hate freedom, period.


You are truly a moron. BTW...when you quote people, please do it in full. Nit picking what people say for your arguments reinforces that you are a true moron.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6724 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:56 pm to
Your grandparents, great, and great, great are very angry at the fricking liberals who have ruined our country, not going to ruin it, it is gone.

A Muslim is in charge, a murderer may be the next President. A battle flag which thousands died for is taken away. The pussies who are supposed to protect us are fricking us. A small businessman can opt not to bake a cake and get sued, and lose their business.

This great Country is not so great now, we are fricked.

Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6724 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:58 pm to
Silicone you are very wrong sadly, you are like every Lib ......in denial

Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20721 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:34 pm to
They would be spending to much time on the internet looking at huge jugs and big jiggling asses to give 2 shits about anything.
Posted by LawLessTyGer
Bay of Ponchartrain
Member since Jan 2009
1256 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:39 pm to
No
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:55 pm to

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our grandparents, great, and great, great are very angry at the fricking liberals who have ruined our country, not going to ruin it, it is gone. 

A Muslim is in charge, a murderer may be the next President. A battle flag which thousands died for is taken away. The pussies who are supposed to protect us are fricking us. A small businessman can opt not to bake a cake and get sued, and lose their business. 

This great Country is not so great now, we are fricked. 

im gonna take a stab that you're white and from the south
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31158 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:11 pm to
I'm not a lib. Don't like it here? fricking move. That liberal enough?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:27 pm to
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They held blacks as slaves.

A black man is president.

What do you think???



You know I was thinking of this sort of thing.
Historians pore over records on everybody, looking for faults in our heroes to knock the country down.

Why have I never seen anything on the History Channel or anywhere else about "the real MLK"?

Nobody has the balls to do to him what has been done to say, Jefferson, for example.
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