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re: Do you believe the founding fathers would be happy with the way the USA is today
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:11 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:11 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
If the Founding Fathers could see what we've become, they'd have just said frick and stuck with ole King George.
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:13 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:14 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Absolutely.
We're more powerful than England and they are worshipped as gods.
We're more powerful than England and they are worshipped as gods.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:18 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
They'd be pissed that nobody uses calligraphy these days.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:23 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
I think if they could observe how our government works they would be sick. They would hate the career politicians, and hate how dumb society on a whole is. They would wonder why we care more about celebrity gossip, rather than important things happening around the world.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:23 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
They would probably be mad there are no slaves around to rape. I'm looking at you, Thomas Jefferson.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:25 pm to bawbarn
You think Ben Franklin could read all the pages in that Kim Kardashian selfie book?
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:25 pm to Monticello
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We rival the ancient citizens of Rome in terms of the status that comes with our nationality.
Not sure I agree.
Civis Americanus Sum <<<< Civis Romanus Sum
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:31 pm to JudgeHolden
Well we are catching up with the Roman Empire when it comes to homosexuality. Thanks Obama or should we go ahead an call him Caesar.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:36 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Just throwing a fun fact out there: Dave Righetti once threw a no-hitter for the Yankees on the Fourth of July .. It was the first Yankee no-no since Don Larson's perfect game .. 
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:53 pm to Tiger Chemist
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Just because I want to focus on the now and not dwell on the hypothetical thoughts of the dead does not make many any less of a patriot.
Yes it most certainly does. Every decision we make today should be based on the hypothetical opinions of men who couldn't understand modern issues. If you don't ask what Thomas Jefferson thought about campaign finance reform then you hate freedom, period.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:56 pm to TigahRag
The same Dave Righetti that was the reliever before Maranio Rivera. The founding fathers may have frowned upon your random fact due to most being loyal to Boston though.
Rag
Rag
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:58 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
I think it was the only July 4 no-hitter ever in baseball ..
Happy 4th ..
Happy 4th ..
Posted on 7/4/15 at 2:07 pm to TigahRag
I see what you did there also his nickname was "Rags"
Posted on 7/4/15 at 3:16 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Not even close. We have few liberties in this country today.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 3:28 pm to PrivatePublic
If Thomas Jefferson had a son.........he would look like president Obama.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 4:25 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
No, they fought to get away from the type of tyranny this country has become.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 4:30 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
we live in the most prosperous, free, and dominant nation on earth... their vision started us on our way to where we are now...
is it EXACTLY how they would have wanted it to look? no, of course not.... but then again, they'd laugh at the religious right with their "founded on Christian principles" narrative, and they'd probably be amazed to see some of the Bill of Rights still around, unaltered....
is it EXACTLY how they would have wanted it to look? no, of course not.... but then again, they'd laugh at the religious right with their "founded on Christian principles" narrative, and they'd probably be amazed to see some of the Bill of Rights still around, unaltered....
Posted on 7/4/15 at 4:34 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Proud but concerned. We're driving ourselves into debt and chipping away more and more at the Constitution, and they would be against that.
As for blacks and women, I think they'd be less shocked than we think. A lot of the Founding Fathers wanted blacks emancipated, and the 3/5 clause was meant more as a time bomb than a way to keep blacks enslaved. If they all wanted to keep blacks enslaved, they would have allowed them to be fully counted in the Census, so the South could get maximum representation in Congress. Without maximum representation, the South was never able to keep Congress from restraining and chipping away at slavery, and that's in part what lit the Union aflame.
They'd be more shocked about women having the powers they have but many of the Founders like Adams were more progressive then we give them credit for. I think they'd get over it.
As for blacks and women, I think they'd be less shocked than we think. A lot of the Founding Fathers wanted blacks emancipated, and the 3/5 clause was meant more as a time bomb than a way to keep blacks enslaved. If they all wanted to keep blacks enslaved, they would have allowed them to be fully counted in the Census, so the South could get maximum representation in Congress. Without maximum representation, the South was never able to keep Congress from restraining and chipping away at slavery, and that's in part what lit the Union aflame.
They'd be more shocked about women having the powers they have but many of the Founders like Adams were more progressive then we give them credit for. I think they'd get over it.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 7/4/15 at 4:45 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Absolutely not. By the time Obama is out of office I would imagine that their feelings will be amplified.
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