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re: Crossfit is a sham- as told by a crossfitter

Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278263 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:13 pm to
What's wrong with being a part of a group? I'm failing to understand the negative. I've met a lot of good people thru crossfit

What's wrong with geeks & non athletes working out?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278263 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:15 pm to
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This is the point. If everyine was like this, as if it was just another way to working out, and not what invented workout. It would have a total different view from the outside looking in. But for people to defend it as if it's a religion only asserts the idea that its more of a cult with greater physiological benefits than physica


So your insecurities are why you hate crossfit. Basically.
Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:16 pm to
Scruffy didn't talk about himself in the thrid person......wow. hahahahaha
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:19 pm to
I agree that being part of a group is important. I do the Beachbody workouts and, because you do them at home, you usually do them alone. Combine that with healthy eating that usually means you're cooking at home, and you kind of become a recluse.

Also, lots of the Beachbody programs don't really give you big gains. They just make you lean and fit. Finally, lots of the moves are rather complicated which makes it easy to cheat.

My point is you can find faults in almost everything. Nothing is perfect. The OP needs to ask himself would he be where he is today without Crossfit. If his answer is "No", then I don't see how he can call it a sham.
Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:20 pm to
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So your insecurities are why you hate crossfit. Basically.


How did you get my insecurities out of anything I've said in the thread? Trust me no cultfitter Has me insecure. I've worked out since I was 12 and am currently 41.
Posted by saltybulldog
MS Gulf Coast
Member since Aug 2007
1144 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:23 pm to
You could really just sum your post up by saying that untrained and unskilled trainers make poor coaches. That is true for any "program".
Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:24 pm to
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My point is you can find faults in almost everything. Nothing is perfect.


I agree and this helps make point. So many cultfitters see cultfit as what invented exercising or the moves that's been around since the beginning. It is the end all be all of working out. In ten years no one will even remember cultfit. Just like cross training and aerobics. They were all fads as is cultfit.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278263 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:26 pm to
Exactly, you get what you put in, if it's an at home workout, crossfit, a globo gym, whatever.

Yea there are douche bags at crossfit. But they also have douche bags at planet fitness. And there are douch bags that pimp beach body all over my Facebook

The same entities also have bad coaching. I've seen more people walk into a globogym and just start working out, having no clue what they are doing. I've seem fat trainers at these places too.

Globogym guys are so insecure when it comes to CF because it's taking away people from them. They hear people talk about it and they become angered. This goat guy is a perfect example. He's making fun of people working out In a group, meeting friends, and seeing results.

All while the globogym he works out at has probably implemented a CF type class to keep up with the Jones.
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16531 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:26 pm to
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've worked out since I was 12 and am currently 41.



You bitch and moan like a 15 yr old girl. Crossfit scares you. We get it. Move on.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278263 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:29 pm to
There is no way youre 41.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 7:29 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26545 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:31 pm to
Honestly, all crossfit talk aside, you just sound like a miserable person.

Every time you go out of your way to say "cultfit" or "sheeple" or whatever it is you think you sound clever saying, you remind me of the Emos from South Park that think everyone but them is a conformist.
Posted by fnchdrms87
Fairfax Station, VA
Member since Jun 2010
893 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:50 pm to
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What I don't get is somebody capable of a 285 clean and jerk only squatting 405. At my best I could squat 435 and there is absolutely no way in hell I could clean and jerk 285. I couldnt even clean it, much less press it. shite, I worked out with some currently prominent NFL football players who couldn't do that and they were squatting well into 500.


Well, for someone who squats 405 (assuming it is a full high bar Olympic style squat), they should actually be able to Cl & j more. Typically with the top lifters, you'll see a back squat that is 130% of your best Cl & j, with your front squat being around 110% of your best Cl & j and the snatch being around 80% of your best Cl and jerk. Assuming technique is solid, someone with a 405 high bar Olympic style back squat should be capable of around a 315 Cl and jerk.

relation of snatch and clean and jerk ratios
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:57 pm to
The below excerpt is why crossfit is so full of shite and themselves, but I wish I could find the founder's idiotic quote proclaiming crossfitters could compete at elite levels of different sports. The dude is off his rocker and a cult leader....

quote:

“Fringe Athletes”
There is a near universal misconception that long distance athletes are fitter that their short distance counterparts. The
triathlete, cyclist, and marathoner are often regarded as among the fittest athletes on earth. Nothing could be farther
from the truth. The endurance athlete has trained long past any cardiovascular health benefit and has lost ground in
strength, speed, and power, typically does nothing for coordination, agility, balance, and accuracy and possesses little
more than average flexibility. This is hardly the stuff of elite athleticism. The CrossFit athlete, remember, has trained
and practiced for optimal physical competence in all ten physical skills (cardiovascular/respiratory endurance, stamina,
flexibility, strength, power, speed, coordination, agility, balance, and accuracy). The excessive aerobic volume of the
endurance athlete’s training has cost him in speed, power, and strength to the point where his athletic competency
has been compromised. No triathlete is in ideal shape to wrestle, box, pole-vault, sprint, play any ball sport, fight fires,
or do police work. Each of these requires a fitness level far beyond the needs of the endurance athlete. None of this
suggests that being a marathoner, triathlete or other endurance athlete is a bad thing; just don’t believe that training
as a long distance athlete gives you the fitness that is prerequisite to many sports. CrossFit considers the Sumo
Wrestler, triathlete, marathoner, and power lifter to be “fringe athletes” in that their fitness demands are so specialized
as to be inconsistent with the adaptations that give maximum competency at all physical challenges. Elite strength
and conditioning is a compromise between each of the ten physical adaptations. Endurance athletes do not balance
that compromise.


LINK

That is completely absurd.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19491 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:57 pm to
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Every time you go out of your way to say "cultfit" or "sheeple" or whatever it is you think you sound clever saying, you remind me of the Emos from South Park that think everyone but them is a conformist.


Barrack Hussein Odumba, Less Miles and Bill Belicheat agree with you.
Posted by fnchdrms87
Fairfax Station, VA
Member since Jun 2010
893 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:03 pm to
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That is completely absurd


Why is this completely absurd? Why has the specops community embraced this training style? How do you explain the proven effectiveness of the training protocol? Why has it exploded in popularity?

I'm genuinely curious on your answers to this one
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 8:04 pm
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:05 pm to
Why do you always hear crossfit people say you need to make sure you find a good box with a good coach but everybody who does crossfit thinks they have a good box and a good coach?
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:06 pm to
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What I don't get is somebody capable of a 285 clean and jerk only squatting 405.


I must have bad squat form, or something is wrong. I can front squat 375, so yeah my back squat should be a lot higher I think.

Hell, I don't even know if I can't hit 405 right now. I've only hit that once. Anything over 385 on any given day for me is gonna be shaky
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:07 pm to
Thanks for that link
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:07 pm to
I was also wondering, is it really a common part of crossfit workouts to do compound/olympic lifts for time?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278263 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:10 pm to
Why do you hear anyone say that about any gym?
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