re: Crossfit is a sham- as told by a crossfitter

Well according to the above post, I had horrible form or something also. I'm not sure what my clean and jerk max would have been because I never tried it, but I would guess somewhere around 185.

I personally never knew anybody who could clean and jerk anywhere in the ballpark of their squat max. That's only in my homely 5 years of working out in high school though.

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5 years in high school

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lol you dumb.

And you realize joining a CF gym is essentially like working with a personal trainer? They program workouts, they teach form, some even handle nutrition.

There are good ones and bad ones. Just like at your other normal gyms.

Yes, you should screen them.

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You say it's a sham, but it's helped you reach your fitness goals, and then you say you will continue doing it? Are you bipolar?

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I think the argument is CrossFit selling itself as the end all to be all. Many of us were in the best shape of our lives (varsity athlete level shape) when this program hadn't even made a splash in the market.

I will concede that it works as far as I can tell from the people who are on it (have seen some great results) but there are many other ways to get and stay in shape that are simple, free, and not nearly as conducive to injury. I hate all fads, but most fitness fads are fundamentally dishonest. They're selling themselves as a method, when in reality they are just something that's trendy enough to keep people interested. And that's the key to staying in shape. Interest. Dedication. Discipline.

It's a hackneyed cliché, but I can guarantee you that any able-bodied adult can find a program online that can get and keep them in shape with minimal outlays for equipment and almost no expense. Being in good shape is not complicated. It's just hard. Especially if you're busy and have other shite you'd rather be doing.

No one calls it the end all, be all.

It is one of the few programs that combines lifting movements and cardio together, other plans are typically separate: cardio first, lift second, or lift first, cardio second. I was big into lifting and I always ditched the cardio because my lifting periods took too long.

Since I stared crossfit, my BP dropped to 105/70 or so from 125/80 average and I've managed to boost my HDL cholesterol levels.

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I always ditched the cardio because my lifting periods took too long.

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Then the primary benefit that Crossfit has given you is to include the cardio that you previously, willingly ditched. I do cardio first (not token shite, either. 4 miles at or under 32 mins) take a five-minute rest, and get into my lifting while I'm still tired. The cutting results have always been very, very good. And I don't need to put on bulk. My frame is 6' about 195lbs, though I try to stay at 190, and am currently at 198 (too many missed workouts, too much Glenny, and too many late meals these days).

Yeah.

My lifting sessions were about 90 min 5-6 days per week and adding any legit cardio would push it to 2 hours.

I'm in and out in an hour.

Not really taking a side in this slapfight as I am basically a cardio bunny and don't care. I will say that my Lifetime Fitness ripped up a third of their gym and put in all kinds of crossfit type bars, straps, bells, balls, etc. That area is packed almost every night with people doing stuff on their own and with trainers. We'll see how it is at the end of the year, but the "sham cult" is going strong so far.

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been doing it 2 years now almost. Ive gotten hurt more playing flag football than doing Crossfit.

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Same here. I've had 2 major injuries and 2 minor injuries and they all occurred playing flag football.