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re: Believe the science!...except food science is killing us

Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26924 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:36 pm to
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fad diets


Also a large part of the health problems people have in this country.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26119 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:36 pm to
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Low density cholesterol stores fat, high density cholesterol takes fat to be used for energy. Cholesterol is just a way for your body to transport fat


Oh lawd, dis about to get real. If he comes back.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:37 pm to
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Did distinguish between the wholesome unprocessed semen and the dangerous processed vegetable oil?


Yeah, pretty much. It wasn't particularly well-received, though.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10486 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:41 pm to
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Our grandparents ate butter and lard. Mine lived well into their 90s.
They also probably expended hundreds more calories and took in hundreds less than the average person does today. Move more and eat less/better is a pretty good way to stay healthier.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10486 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Also a large part of the health problems people have in this country.
Fad diets have been around for centuries throughout the world. It's not something unique to the modern US.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 5:43 pm
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:44 pm to
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quote:
Low density cholesterol stores fat, high density cholesterol takes fat to be used for energy. Cholesterol is just a way for your body to transport fat


Oh lawd, dis about to get real. If he comes back.


Wasnt meant to be a gotcha or anything. The inflammation and damage to blood vessels that fats get caught on while being transported by cholesterol are the real culprits of heart disease, not cholesterol
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 5:45 pm
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:45 pm to
Another thing to consider is the role of statins. The whole cholesterol-as-bad narrative was cooked up by a trade group for people growing soy and rapeseed (the AHA), but it was the pharmacy that really latched onto the lie and made money.

There's never been a good, reputable study that ties statins to improved outcomes. To lower serum cholesterol levels? Sure. But that's where the studies stopped. In fact, drugs are seldom studied post-approval.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27444 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:45 pm to
Canola oil is horrible for you.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54295 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:48 pm to
This video freaked me out when someone posted it last year. I knew roundup is not the greatest, but did not know the extent to which it is used in our farming.
Chemical farming and the loss of human health.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26119 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:48 pm to
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Wasnt meant to be a gotcha or anything.


I didn't see it as a gotcha. Just if he comes back and feels like typing we are going to go from not exactly accurate 8th-grade biology to doctoral level science pretty quickly.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:51 pm to
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They also probably expended hundreds more calories and took in hundreds less than the average person does today. Move more and eat less/better is a pretty good way to stay healthier.


Eating garbage and burning it off will make you healthier on an energy level than not moving, but you'll end up being TOFI (thin-outside-fat-inside) like that. That is, you'll just be a skinny person with diabetes, atherosclerosis, insulin insensitivity, and other metabolic dysfunctions. But hey, at least you won't be fat to the eye.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31631 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:52 pm to
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machinery


And heat and chemicals.

This thread is better for health and fitness board fwiw.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27444 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:55 pm to
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How we have been treating diabetes is completely backwards, and it is criminal that we continue to do it the same way now that we know how to put it into remissio


How do you put diabetes into remission?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36482 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:56 pm to
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You're calling me educated? That's the nicest thing anyone's ever called me on this site.

I don't keep vegetable oil in my house, and eat an overall very healthy diet. I track my macros (most days, some days I slack) and the vast majority of the time don't consume processed foods or cokes.



I know you aren't an idiot and are probably not a giant fatass either.

Everything in that video should be common knowledge at this point. What we thought of as nutritional science in the 90s was nothing short of a marketing campaign by the sugar and corn lobbies that the FDA was complicit in. According to the "food pyramid," Nabisco crackers and sunny delight were "healthy" and butter was going to kill you. I mean think of the fact that Sunny Delight was pushed on an entire generation as healthy.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 6:03 pm
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:56 pm to
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How do you put diabetes into remission?


Simple. Ketogenic diet heavy in healthy natural fats.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:56 pm to
Do like Bruce Lee or chuck Norris. Karate kick diabetes in the face.
Posted by Abikaasa_Posti_Teel
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
2149 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:57 pm to
Where would pecan oil fall on this? I use it on everything because I infuse it with garlic and rosemary. Really good, but I was told it was healthy...and it is know for infusing better than many other oils.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27444 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:57 pm to
Crazy that everyone grew up using canola oil.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 6:13 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10486 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:58 pm to
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Eating garbage and burning it off will make you healthier on an energy level than not moving, but you'll end up being TOFI (thin-outside-fat-inside) like that. That is, you'll just be a skinny person with diabetes, atherosclerosis, insulin insensitivity, and other metabolic dysfunctions. But hey, at least you won't be fat to the eye.
Did you miss the whole "eat less/better" part?

Eating a Wendy's triple burger with no bun is not healthy, even if it's got all that good beef fat. How much you eat matters just as much as what you eat.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 6:24 pm
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19377 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:59 pm to
Good point thanks
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