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re: Believe the science!...except food science is killing us

Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26924 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:11 pm to
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Nope, im just a carpenter who likes to read.


You know watching videos on YouTube doesn't count as reading, right?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36482 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:14 pm to
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You know watching videos on YouTube doesn't count as reading, right?




Are educated people on here still this oblivious to basic nutritional science? Are you actually just learning for the first time that vegetable oil is bad and monosaturated fat is good for you?
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 5:16 pm
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:15 pm to
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No but he read it on Facebook so it must be true.


Myspace bro get it right...believe what you want. Id say any reasonably curious and intelligent person would do their own research into the topic.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:18 pm to
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We know quite a bit about outer space. The laws of physics arent exclusive to earth


Every astrophysicist or quantum physicist will tell you we don’t know shite, and it’s true
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:18 pm to
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Tallow is hard to find... I think you need the grass fed beef tallow for it to be truly healthy.

The heart associate is trash. Been plenty of articles and documentaries about how we have been lied to.


Saturated fats like tallow are more stable and can be stored for long periods. I buy 100% grassfed/finished tallow in gallon buckets online
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:18 pm to
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Are educated people on here still this oblivious to basic nutritional science?


Years ago when I learned about energy breakdown and cholesterol in biology and biochem, I recognized instantly the accepted narrative about high cholesterol and saturated fats smelled like shite
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19377 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:18 pm to
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Is Olive Oil "processed?"


Yes but it is pressed and filtered more than it is invaded with chemicals and additives in that process

OO is all I use except when deep frying. That’s what peanut oil (also pressed and filtered) is for
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
16207 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:19 pm to
Our grandparents ate butter and lard. Mine lived well into their 90s.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26924 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:20 pm to
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Are educated people on here still this oblivious to basic nutritional science? Are you actually just learning for the first time that vegetable oil is bad and monosaturated fat is good for you?


You're calling me educated? That's the nicest thing anyone's ever called me on this site.

I don't keep vegetable oil in my house, and eat an overall very healthy diet. I track my macros (most days, some days I slack) and the vast majority of the time don't consume processed foods or cokes.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35584 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:21 pm to
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shortening your life
I see what you did there
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:22 pm to
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Yes but it is pressed and filtered more than it is invaded with chemicals and additives in that process


It's not really about the chemicals and additives though. Even if you bought cold pressed soybean oil without chemical extraction or additives, it'd still be unhealthy for you because polyunsaturated fatty acids are unstable and prone to oxidation.

Olive oil is primarily monounsaturated fat though which is universally accepted as good for you by all sides of the nutritional debate.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64592 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:22 pm to
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I see what you did there


Mama's lil' baby loves it.
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:22 pm to
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Every astrophysicist or quantum physicist will tell you we don’t know shite, and it’s true


I dont know any astrophysicists but im assuming you do since you lnow their opinions

Cholesterol and fat breakdown in the body is not that complicated.
Posted by Slayer103
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
726 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:25 pm to
Everything in this video is 100% true and I’ve known this for about 5 years now. We are straight up lied to about the way what we eat effects our bodies. How we have been treating diabetes is completely backwards, and it is criminal that we continue to do it the same way now that we know how to put it into remission. I cured my alcoholic fatty liver disease (which helps my alcoholic cirrhosis, which is more permanent) by changing to a strict keto diet and my gastroenterologist still doesn’t seem to get why my liver/tests look so great hahaha.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
8337 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:26 pm to
Who was telling us to eat a bunch of vegetable oil? Maybe the companies who sell it, not scientists.

But if food scientists knew a damn thing we would already know how to control fat storage and thus fatness in some easy way. I mean really easy, not the way eat less and move around more plan that also works.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36569 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:28 pm to
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Cholesterol and fat breakdown in the body is not that complicated.



Describe it for me.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15885 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:29 pm to
Now I don’t feel like an idiot for only using butter when cooking anything in a skillet. I’m still a fatty tho I guess
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:30 pm to
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Everything in this video is 100% true and I’ve known this for about 5 years now. We are straight up lied to about the way what we eat effects our bodies. How we have been treating diabetes is completely backwards, and it is criminal that we continue to do it the same way now that we know how to put it into remission. I cured my alcoholic fatty liver disease (which helps my alcoholic cirrhosis, which is more permanent) by changing to a strict keto diet and my gastroenterologist still doesn’t seem to get why my liver/tests look so great hahaha.


Awesome post
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:33 pm to
Low density cholesterol stores fat, high density cholesterol takes fat to be used for energy. Cholesterol is just a way for your body to transport fat
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 5:35 pm to
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But if food scientists knew a damn thing we would already know how to control fat storage and thus fatness in some easy way. I mean really easy, not the way eat less and move around more plan that also works.


We do. We know that triggering the metabolic state known as ketosis rapidly burns off fat, but eating in a pattern that induces ketosis gets mixed up with all of the fad diets just like all of the good nutritional advice does.
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