re: Saints drafted other players over these LSU players

Posted by BattinRouge11

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Member since Aug 2013

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:18 am to GOON

Sorry I just don't appreciate this statistical analysis as much as you would like me to.

God, the idiotic mindset of our front office has gotten to the fans. Now everyone is trying to spread touches and get schemey "looks" -- even when considering who gets drafted from where!

This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 11:20 am

Posted by Fun Bunch

New Orleans

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:20 am to BattinRouge11

quote:
DRAFT PROVEN PLAYERS FROM RELEVANT CFB

TIL that Ohio State, the ACC, and the Pac12 was not "relevant CFB".

Posted by SammyTiger

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Feb 2009

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:28 am to Rickety Cricket

1. there are a ton of good players on that list
2. The guys we are taking over them are just not good.

in 2014 we could have gone Varrett in the first round and Jarvis woudl have been sitting there in the second.

We would be a significantly better team with Varrett and Landry than we are now with Cooks and the Ghost of Jean-Baptiste.

You can argue all you want about the risk of taking La'el Collins, but it was less of a risk than taking Garrett. A guy who isn't even our fricking backup. Then you hear shite like we didn't even reach out to him, which can't be true , right?

Vaccaro over Reid.

Posted by Peazey

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:29 am to Hoodoo Man

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These guys' only reason for existing is piss us off, and to see that.

It can be hard to resist, but there's no arguing with them. Pointing out obviously factually incorrect assertions just plays into their hands. It's the part of the Internet that brings out the worst in people.

Posted by Snipe

Member since Nov 2015

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:34 am to lsu712

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Saints drafted other players over these LSU players
2011
3-68 Kelvin Shepard-LB
3-73 Stevan Ridley-RB
3-92 Joe Barksdale-OT
Gave up 2011 2nd round and 2012 1st round picks for Mark Ingram

2012
2-63 Reuben Randle-WR
4-124 Ron Brooks-CB

2013
1-18 Eric Reid-S
5-138 Tharold Simon-CB
6-194 Spencer Ware-RB

2014
2-55 Jeremy Hill-RB
2-63 Jarvis Landry-WR
3-92 Trai Turner-OG
6-178 Zach Mettenberger-QB
6-181 Alfred Blue-RB
7-239 James Wright-WR
Gave up 2014 1st and 3rd round picks for Brandin Cooks

2015
3-88 Danielle Hunter-DE/OLB
4-124 Kwon Alexander-LB
La'el Collins-OL

2016
2-52 Deion Jones-LB
4-123 Jerald Hawkins-OL
4-133 Rashard Robinson-CB
7-233 Jalen Mills-S/CB
7-234 Vadal Alexander-OG

Saints have 6 picks next year. Every round except 5th.
LSU players in draft next year:

Defense
S-Jamal Adams*
CB-Tre White
LB-Kendell Beckwith
DL-Christian LaCouture
DL-Davon Godchaux*
DE/OLB- Lewis Neal
DE/OLB-Tashawn Bower
LB-Duke Riley
LB/S-Corey Thompson
S-Rickey Jefferson
DT's Greg Gilmore* and Frank Herron* possible entrants

Offense
RB-Leonard Fournette*
WR-Malachi Dupre*
WR-Travin Dural
OL-Ethan Pocic
TE-Colin Jeter
TE-Desean Smith
OL-Josh Boutte
OL-Will Clapp*

*Draft Eligible

Congratulations, you've proven definitively that the New Orleans Saints are not HOMERS.

Posted by Youngest Mathiason

Where Black Pearl meets U. Audubon

Member since Feb 2016

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:39 am to Snipe

Gosh our fan base has truly hit rock bottom. This is so delusional

Posted by jtran1988

Corndog U

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:40 am to lsu712

Posted by 13SaintTiger

Isle of Capri

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:40 am to lsu712

FWIW I agree with you. We have jack shite to show for our past few drafts.

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore

Member since Oct 2008

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:56 am to lsu712

Not going through the he whole thread, but the major point I take away is this.

If all these players were available when the saints drafted then apparently every other team passed on them also, so what is the big fricking deal?

Posted by Patrick O Rly

y u do dis?

Member since Aug 2011

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:57 am to lsu712

The time and effort put into this...

You must have stayed up for days and pulled out all of your hair.

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore

Member since Oct 2008

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 12:01 pm to BattinRouge11

Holy frick!

We have some really shitty "fans".

Embarrassing.

Posted by CocoLoco

Member since Jan 2012

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 12:09 pm to Sid in Lakeshore

Has to be this guy

LINK

Posted by Hoodoo Man

Sunshine Pumping most days.

Member since Oct 2011

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 12:14 pm to CocoLoco

I'd trade houses with that guy.

Well, backyards, anyway.

This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 12:16 pm

Posted by Mahootney

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Member since Sep 2008

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 12:38 pm to lsu712

Outside of jarvis and kwon, I can't blame them.

Posted by Dead End

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Member since Aug 2013

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Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:19 pm to lsu712

quote:
La'el Collins-OL

This still pisses me off. Just burn a late pick and force his hand.

quote:

2-63 Jarvis Landry-WR

We could have a solid WR without moving up in the draft.

quote:
1-18 Eric Reid-S

I hated taking KV over Reid.

Posted by CocoLoco

Member since Jan 2012

29108 posts

Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:29 pm to Dead End

Collins was actually not that good his rookie year

Cooks is far more versatile than Landry is

Reid is good, not great. Yea I know KV isn't either. KV was the better prospect at the time al things considered.

Posted by Snipe

Member since Nov 2015

10914 posts

Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:53 pm to Youngest Mathiason

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Gosh our fan base has truly hit rock bottom. This is so delusional

C'mon man. This list is delusional without realistically breaking down the team's needs for each draft and (Non-Hindsight) expectation for every player on the roster at a position which you would have drafted one of these players.

Posted by SammyTiger

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Feb 2009

66463 posts

Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:10 pm to Patrick O Rly

quote:
The time and effort put into this...

You must have stayed up for days and pulled out all of your hair.

its actually got to take like minutes.

Its every LSU player drafted after our the saints first pick. So basically every LSU player in that entered the NFl the last 3 years - Odell and Mingo.