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re: Pierre Thomas gets 2 year extension
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:36 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:36 pm to TigerBait1127
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You brought up his 40 time from college. In the drills that measure quickness, he was very comparable to AP
Am I in the twilight zone here? You cant be serious.
Oh... now I get it. They must have been really close, which is why he went undrafted.
Unreal dude. Apples and Oranges.
Haha. The video you linked is from what '09?
Am I seeing this right? If so, why don't I show a video of Deuce from '06 and say "we should get him. Look how good he looks".
Notice how many passes are not "screens", but swing passes and wheel routes.
You think PT can do that?
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:41 pm to blueboxer1119
What are the contract numbers??
Then i will comment.
Then i will comment.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:41 pm to blueboxer1119
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Oh... now I get it. They must have been really close, which is why he went undrafted.
They were very similar in the quickness drills. How is it apples to oranges?
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Haha. The video you linked is from what '09?
Am I seeing this right? If so, why don't I show a video of Deuce from '06 and say "we should get him. Look how good he looks".
I was disputing your theory that quickness has ZERO to do with making defense players miss
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You think PT can do that?
you apparently can't read
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:45 pm to mm2316
Keep in mind with this the snaps counts also.
Pass Block Snaps:
Thomas- 73
Sproles- 14
Ingram- 14
Robinson- 3
Thomas was the only one relied on by Payton to do it consistently. The other guys averaged less than one pass block snap a game(over 16 games; still very low when taking into account actual games played).
Pass Block Snaps:
Thomas- 73
Sproles- 14
Ingram- 14
Robinson- 3
Thomas was the only one relied on by Payton to do it consistently. The other guys averaged less than one pass block snap a game(over 16 games; still very low when taking into account actual games played).
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:47 pm to TigerBait1127
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Oh... now I get it. They must have been really close, which is why he went undrafted.
They were very similar in the quickness drills. How is it apples to oranges?
quote:
Haha. The video you linked is from what '09?
Am I seeing this right? If so, why don't I show a video of Deuce from '06 and say "we should get him. Look how good he looks".
I was disputing your theory that quickness has ZERO to do with making defense players miss
Quick / Fast players aren't forced to make players miss. They just run around them....
Quick / Fast players have a second gear to kick in when in the open field. I'm not hating on Pierre, but he doesn't have that.
Comparing Pierre with AP (who might end up being one of the best ever) is absolutely outrageous.
To say that you've gone overboard with that comparison is the understatement of the year.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:50 pm to lsutigers1992
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:51 pm to blueboxer1119
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Quick / Fast players aren't forced to make players miss. They just run around them....
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Comparing Pierre with AP (who might end up being one of the best ever) is absolutely outrageous.
Your reading comprehension is so unbelievably bad.
I compared his quickness drill #'s to a player who is obviously very very quick. You're the one who pulled his 40 time out
PT
20 yard shuttle - 4.31
3-Cone Drill - 7.12
10 yard dash - 1.57
AP
20 yard shuttle - 4.40
3 cone drill - 7.09
10 yard dash - 1.53
Are you confusing quickness with speed again? He has great acceleration and can change direction
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:53 pm to TigerBait1127
Did you two hear we signed bryd?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:54 pm to TigerBait1127
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Your reading comprehension is so unbelievably bad.
I compared his quickness drill #'s to a player who is obviously very very quick.
Yeah, he's quick enough to not even get drafted.
Why don't we compare Colston to Megatron while we're at it?
Let's stop the Pierre Thomas / Adrian Peterson comparison. Jesus Christ. Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:57 pm to TigerBait1127
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Tons of missed tackles, not even touched
you're using highlights from 5-7 years ago. big difference compared to now.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:58 pm to lsutigers1992
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:59 pm to htran90
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you're using highlights from 5-7 years ago. big difference compared to now.
Exactly.
Robinson has earned his touches.
If Pierre stays, we have to get rid of Ingram.
We MUST have a scatback.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:59 pm to blueboxer1119
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Yeah, he's quick enough to not even get drafted.
GREAT POINT!!!!!!!!!!!! I gave you his numbers and that is all you have?
Clearly he was evaluated correctly.
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Why don't we compare Colston to Megatron while we're at it?
Colston is clearly a 7th round talent too
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Let's stop the Pierre Thomas / Adrian Peterson comparison. Jesus Christ. Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
yea, you can't read. Please show me where I compared PT and AP as football players. Show me where I said PT was in the same league
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:59 pm to blueboxer1119
quote:This makes zero sense.
If Pierre stays, we have to get rid of Ingram.
We MUST have a scatback.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:03 pm to blueboxer1119
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If Pierre stays, we have to get rid of Ingram.
da fuq
Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:04 pm to Hoodoo Man
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This makes zero sense.
Last year we played with Thomas, Sproles, and Ingram sprinkled in.
Robinson saw very little action till the playoffs.
IMO Robinson has earned his touches.
Pierre gets extended.
Ingram still on rookie deal.
Who is going to make up for Sproles' playing time?
Who on our roster now has his skill set?
None of those 3 do.
If we bring someone in, then we have 4!
We don't need 4 fricking running backs.
Extending Pierre makes no sense to me at all.
Sproles had 71 catches last year.
Who takes that role? Pierre? So he'll have 140 catches?
You cant run the same type of plays with any of those 3 that you can with Sproles / Bush.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:07 pm to Hoodoo Man
Ok I'm not reading this whole thread because there is obviously some morons yapping in here, but if anyone in this thread doesn't think Pierre is still and has been the best RB on our roster then you need to turn in your fan card, because you are not watching the fricking games. This restructure is the best thing that could've happened for the team.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:08 pm to blueboxer1119
Good offenses don't NEED a scatback.
Manning and denver? none last year
Rodgers and GB? none last year
Brady and NE? none last year
it is a different aspect of an offense, but it isn't necessary to be a good offense.
Manning and denver? none last year
Rodgers and GB? none last year
Brady and NE? none last year
it is a different aspect of an offense, but it isn't necessary to be a good offense.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:08 pm to Meateye
come at me with your soapbox.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:11 pm to htran90
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Good offenses don't NEED a scatback.
That's what I was saying. PT is an all-around running back. He isn't a scat back because he's on the field every play.
Takes away some predictability
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