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re: Pels are interested in offering KJ McDaniels

Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:44 am to
Posted by Pellican
NOLA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:44 am to
I'd be a big fan of this. Don't think KJ is someone who'd consistently contribute for at least another year, but someone I think could be a very good swingman if put into the right culture/development setting. There is a lot to work with here.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11875 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:04 am to
Surprised we have not heard anything yet. If we truly want to sign him to an offer sheet, it would make sense to do it as soon as possible.
Posted by Pellican
NOLA
Member since Jun 2013
49 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:11 am to
In-depth knowledge of the CBA and front office tactics are not my strong points, but given how little financial flexibility we have, we can't make much of a splash anyway.

If we sign him to an offer sheet, we can't S&T. Not that we have much to give Houston in a S&T anyway.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38697 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:29 am to
quote:

This means the Pelicans have $2,589,000 remaining of the MLE to utilize. Adding in raises over the course of four years the maximum offer New Orleans can put on the table is for just over $11 million. Is that enough to pull a player like K.J. McDaniels in restricted free agency?


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Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115607 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:32 am to
Which is why we haven't signed him to an offer sheet. Once we do we can't S&T.

So we are either waiting on Josh Smith or seeing if we can work on a S&T.

I'm sure they are trying to get something good for him by posturing that they are going to keep him, but he's a somewhat marginal player that played like 9 total minutes for them and would be buried behind all of their wings.

Give them a conditional 2nd and be done with it.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:36 am to
quote:

But shooting less than 40 percent for your career is pretty damn bad


Really? For his CAREER? He had only played one season. Please tell me you were joking and you aren't that retarded.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25469 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Right, if Jrue is healthy and reke is running the 2nd unit off the bench then Cole's role is significantly reduced anyway.



Jrue
EG
QPon
AD
Asik

Cole
Reke
KJ/Dante
Ryno/Dante
Ajina/Ryno

Cole is the PG coming in for the second unit. He's not some 3rd stringer. Reke may be the one with the ball in his hand, and running the offense, but Cole is playing the PG position and Reke is playing the SG position, as far as matchups go.
Cole will not lose minutes b/c of KJ. He might lose minutes if we get Curry and he turns out to be a decent player, but even then i don't see him losing many minutes at all.

I would really like to get KJ, not sure about giving up Cole to do it, unless we plan on expecting a big contribution from Curry.
Cole is proven to be a difference maker off the bench. KJ and Curry are risks. They don't seem like high risks, but who would have thought flame thrower Jimmer in college would shoot 18% from 3 in the NBA? I mean he can't even hit wide open 3's anymore.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:54 am to
You must not be familiar with him.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38697 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:56 am to
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So we are either waiting on Josh Smith or seeing if we can work on a S&T.


according to the article i posted, HOU will have to dip into their MLE to re-sign josh smith if thats what they want to do, perhaps all of it. what we need to happen is for another team to show interest in smith (as unlikely as that might be) and force HOU's hand

i think...
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:59 am to
I really like Cole. I like the experience he brings, and the tenacity. With that said, KJ is worth the gamble. If Jrue stays healthy it is a low risk, high reward kind of transaction.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61461 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:04 am to
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Cole is the PG coming in for the second unit. He's not some 3rd stringer. Reke may be the one with the ball in his hand, and running the offense, but Cole is playing the PG position and Reke is playing the SG position, as far as matchups go.
Cole will not lose minutes b/c of KJ. He might lose minutes if we get Curry and he turns out to be a decent player, but even then i don't see him losing many minutes at all.


Cole may not lose minutes, but he's still a bench player that will likely be expiring and likely too expensive to resign next year. Even if KJ never learns to shoot he could be a Toney Allen athletic defender type. If he does learn to shoot you have the SF you've been looking for. Considering we've traded away the last 3 draft picks, I think it's a deal you have to take if it's on the table. You rarely get the opportunity to buy what equates to a 1st with less than $3 million in cap space.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 10:06 am
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8239 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:13 am to
ATL: Assuming Reke and Jrue are on the floor to close out games, who has the ball in their hands next year?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25469 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:15 am to
I know what your saying, i'd just use it as a last resort. Houston may know they don't want this guy regardless, but they want to get something for him.
Hopefully we can wait them out and get him without giving up anything.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25469 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:21 am to
quote:

ATL: Assuming Reke and Jrue are on the floor to close out games, who has the ball in their hands next year?



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Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:30 am to
Personally, I am surprised more people haven't gotten on the OP about the title of the thread.

The OP is a good poster, but read the tweet and read the title of the thread. I think people are frustrated that nothing has happened yet because they read the thread title and not the actual tweet.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61461 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:31 am to
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ATL: Assuming Reke and Jrue are on the floor to close out games, who has the ball in their hands next year?


I don't know. Tyreke was terrible in the clutch last year, but part of that was Monty encouraging the Hero Ball and not creating space. Tyreke in space is different than Tyreke going Kamikaze down a packed lane. If you're Finishing 5 is

Jrue
Gordon
Tyreke
Ryno
AD

There should be only one big in the lane, and if he helps on Tyreke a lob should be going to AD. A Tyreke/AD pick and roll certainly seems like a better idea with that lineup than anything involving Tyreke off ball unless he improves his 3.
Posted by whoknows1390
nola
Member since Jul 2014
1672 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:40 am to
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Cole is the PG coming in for the second unit. He's not some 3rd stringer. Reke may be the one with the ball in his hand, and running the offense, but Cole is playing the PG position and Reke is playing the SG position, as far as matchups go. Cole will not lose minutes b/c of KJ.



I didn't say he would lose minutes because of KJ. I said if Jrue stays healthy all year Coles role/importance is diminished.

I like Cole a lot as a player and we don't make the playoffs last year with out him but if you can turn him into a high potential wing it's a deal you have to make.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Cole is the PG coming in for the second unit. He's not some 3rd stringer.




quote:

Cole will not lose minutes b/c of KJ.


Yes. If McDaniels or a reasonable option at the wing is here, you can go

Evans
McDaniels
Cunningham
Anderson
Ajinca/Davis

I'd much rather have Evans "playing the pg position" than Cole.

Besides, if Gentry can manage rotations, he can have two of Holiday, Evans, Gordon on almost the entire game.
Posted by whoknows1390
nola
Member since Jul 2014
1672 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:45 am to
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Besides, if Gentry can manage rotations, he can have two of Holiday, Evans, Gordon on almost the entire game.


People are still stuck thinking in Monty ball terms. It's not a rule that all the starters have to come out at once anymore
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61461 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:47 am to
Hopefully Monty took this with him.

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