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re: Pels are interested in offering KJ McDaniels
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:17 pm to Ninja Looter
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:17 pm to Ninja Looter
Rockets will undoubtedly match.
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:19 pm to Ninja Looter
All indications are that the Rockets will have to choose between JSmoove and KJ. Smoove is the obvious choice given his playoff performance last season. He would eat up the full MLE. If he leaves for another team, they will likely match KJ's deal. If Smoove stays, we will be able to offer more money and, possibly more importantly, more playing time.
If we sign KJ, I hope that it's to a lengthy deal.
If we sign KJ, I hope that it's to a lengthy deal.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 7:36 am to THRILLHO
Any updates on this? Have we actually offered him yet?
Didn't see anything on hoops hype or twitter.
Didn't see anything on hoops hype or twitter.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 7:57 am to whoknows1390
He seems to be a hustler and a rim protector. ...I would say give him an offer.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 7:58 am to whoknows1390
I think it's a little odd that it's leaked we plan to offer. If KJ had time to follow Seth Curry on Twitter, he had time to sign an offer sheet. Perhaps we're wanting to engage Houston in S&T talks?
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:00 am to TigerinATL
quote:
engage Houston in S&T talks?
This...
The fact that Hou currently has the money to match, leads me to believe that if we do end up with KJ, it will be through a S&T....For who???? No clue...
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:01 am to TigerinATL
quote:
Perhaps we're wanting to engage Houston in S&T talks?
That's my fear as well.
The initial report said he was antsy to sign the offer sheet. I have to assume there's no news because we haven't offered yet which is concerning.
ETA: could be working a cole sign and trade. I think Gentry said Reke will be playing a lot of point guard, maybe they see Cole as expendable.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 8:02 am
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:07 am to whoknows1390
quote:
maybe they see Cole as expendable.
IF Jrue is healthy, then Cole is expendable, especially if we're trading for someone we think will earn SF minutes and push Tyreke and possibly QPon into more backcourt minutes. As much as I like Cole, most seem to think he'll be a cap casualty next year, so if we can lock in what would essentially be a replacement draft pick for $2.5ish per year in exchange for Cole, it's a decent exchange. You essentially traded Salmons for a mid-late 1st. I'd rather have it all, but sometimes you have to give to get.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 8:09 am
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:08 am to TigerinATL
If we can get a young athletic SF for this team like KJ for Cole......Homerun
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:14 am to Jizzamo311
The only S&T options we really have left are
Cole
or
Toney Douglas + Withey or Babbitt and/or future 2nd
Cole
or
Toney Douglas + Withey or Babbitt and/or future 2nd
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:16 am to TigerinATL
If that's the deal then you have to do it. KJ has the potential to be a stud if he continues to develop. Jump shot has good form and should improve if he works hard.
At this point I Suppose Cole is what he is. A nice player off the bench.
Initially I was worried QP would be involved which I would hate.
At this point I Suppose Cole is what he is. A nice player off the bench.
Initially I was worried QP would be involved which I would hate.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:19 am to TigerinATL
quote:Yep. Gentry did say that reke will play the 1-3 positions. Maybe they are thinking reke would be able to start at pg if Jrue misses time.
IF Jrue is healthy, then Cole is expendable, especially if we're trading for someone we think will earn SF minutes and push Tyreke and possibly QPon into more backcourt minutes
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 8:20 am
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:23 am to whoknows1390
quote:
Initially I was worried QP would be involved which I would hate.
I wouldn't do it for Pondexter and I don't think Demps would either. KJ has a higher ceiling but we know what QPon brings now and trading him for an unknown is a potential step back with SF being so thin still. I don't know if I'd say Demps/Gentry are on the hot seat, but if they don't get to around 50 wins and make the playoffs, it could get ugly.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:28 am to TigerinATL
quote:
Withey
I thought we gave this option up when we pulled the QO to Withey...
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:28 am to TigerinATL
quote:
Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_Feigen
The plan now (per sources) is to match on KJ McDaniels and look at trade options, opportunities. They'll be patient.
So we either need to find a trade piece Houston wants or wait for Houston to pay Josh Smith so they don't have the ability to match.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:30 am to TigerinATL
quote:
Cole is expendable
He is the definition of replacement level player. You give Norris Cole up every single time if you think there is a better option available. McDaniels is a better option.
Not to you, ATL, but just in general: they can't keep their 3rd string PG because they fear the starter may get hurt again. If you're playing your 3rd string PG, things are shitty no matter who it is.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:32 am to TigerinATL
Barring major injuries I'd say we are a lock for the playoffs at this point.
Two playoff teams from last year are undoubtedly going to miss them next year. There's 9 playoff worthy teams in the West imo, and we're definitely not the 9th team.
Two playoff teams from last year are undoubtedly going to miss them next year. There's 9 playoff worthy teams in the West imo, and we're definitely not the 9th team.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:32 am to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:
I thought we gave this option up when we pulled the QO to Withey...
We still have his "non-bird rights", yes that's a thing
It's like when we didn't pick up Aminu's option but still signed him to a one year deal. quote:
NON-BIRD EXCEPTION -- This is also a component of the Veteran Free Agent exception. Its name is somewhat of a misnomer, since Non-Bird really is a form of Bird rights. Players who qualify for this exception are called "Non-Qualifying Veteran Free Agents" in the CBA. They are veteran free agents who are neither Qualifying Veteran Free Agents nor Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agents, and include the following:
Players who finished the season with a given team, who have played no more than one season without clearing waivers or changing teams as a free agent.
Players who were Early Bird free agents, but whose team renounced its right to use the Early Bird exception to re-sign the player.
Players who were to be Larry Bird or Early Bird free agents, were playing on one-year contracts, and were traded mid-season.
This exception allows a team to re-sign its own free agent to a salary starting at up to 120% of his salary in the previous season2 (not over the maximum salary, of course), 120% of the minimum salary, or the amount needed to tender a qualifying offer (if the player is a restricted free agent -- see question number 44), whichever is greater. Raises are limited to 4.5% of the salary in the first year of the contract, and contracts are limited to four seasons when this exception is used.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 8:33 am
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:36 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
Barring major injuries I'd say we are a lock for the playoffs at this point.
Turning your 3rd PG into KJ is something you should be able to survive. Turning your starting SF (QPon) into KJ would only work if KJ blew up, otherwise you're taking a step back and endangering your playoff lock status.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:40 am to TigerinATL
quote:
Turning your 3rd PG into KJ is something you should be able to survive
Right, if Jrue is healthy and reke is running the 2nd unit off the bench then Cole's role is significantly reduced anyway.
Key factor in everything is Jrue being healthy.
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