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re: Chris Hardwick #metooed in a big way.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:12 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:12 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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It's exactly what she claims happened.
Am I missing something? Please point out where she said anything that inferred that he did this:
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Doing your business on a woman as she lays there crying seems to fit in there.
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It's a slippery slope except in cases where there is obvious emotional abuse
If you can't define a baseline for emotional abuse you can't say what's obvious and what's not.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 4:13 pm
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:16 pm to SUB
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Am I missing something? Please point out where she said anything that inferred that he did this:
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Every night, I laid there for him, occasionally in tears. He called it “starfishing”. He thought the whole idea was funny. To be fair, I did go along with it out of fear of losing him. I’m still recovering from being sexually used (not in a super fun way) for three years.
Here:
LINK
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:21 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Thanks. That info wasn't included in the article included in the OP for some reason.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:21 pm to SUB
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If you can't define a baseline for emotional abuse you can't say what's obvious and what's not.
So a guy that comes home every night and screams and curses at his wife until she's crying, and threatens her with taking her kids if she doesn't do as he says... that would be a non-obvious grey area? There are definite instances of emotional abuse that are obvious.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:28 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Yeah...we’ll id pump the brakes a little before going all in on what a celebrity ex-girlfriend has to say. I mean when somebody bitches about how bad their ex was and stayed with them for 3 years ...I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
We don’t have a clue about how much crazy was going on behind closed doors.
We don’t have a clue about how much crazy was going on behind closed doors.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:32 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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There are definite instances of emotional abuse that are obvious.
To you and me, sure. Something that may be obvious to someone else may not be obvious to us however. That's all I'm saying.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:34 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Did you really think that Burr would have a different opinion?
Given his wife seems to run his politics, yeah...potentially. But again...he did not defend Hardwick and at no point suggested that if what was said wads 100% true it was ok.
Just that BEFORE he all societally burn the guy at the stake MAYBE we ought to sit back for 30 seconds and wait to see what his response is and then see if we can make heads or tails of what really happened.
That lack of a reasonable, middle ground is really my only reason for being in the conversation at all.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:35 pm to SUB
She said:
So now that he's denied it all, where's the audio / video?
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I have audio/video that will support and prove many of the things I’ve stated in this post. I’ve chosen not to include it for your sake, in the hopes that the person you’ve become will do the right thing.
So now that he's denied it all, where's the audio / video?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:18 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Just that BEFORE he all societally burn the guy at the stake MAYBE we ought to sit back for 30 seconds and wait to see what his response is and then see if we can make heads or tails of what really happened. That lack of a reasonable, middle ground is really my only reason for being in the conversation at all.
It's pretty astounding that we're not even talking about a criminal complaint here. Just an awful-ex story that doesn't even name him and...his career is over and his name is excised from the Nerdist website within hours.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 10:29 pm to PowerTool
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It's pretty astounding that we're not even talking about a criminal complaint here.
Not only are we not talking about a criminal complaint, she never actually names him.
Let's take a step back and look what we have...
A man has lost his job(s) because a woman whom he left because she cheated on him wrote something about an unnamed boyfriend that allegedly did cruel (possibly illegal) things to her. No calls to the police, no pictures, no medical records detailing abuse, no voicemails, not even naming him specifically... nothing but the faux accusation from a woman he rejected due to her infidelity.
This is where we are today and it's pathetic.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:43 am to poncho villa
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so if you piss off a girl or cheat on her, she can just say "Ohh he sexually assaulted me" and that guy gets fricked. Whether he did it or not.
100! The girl can be into it at the time, then anytime at all afterwards should she change her mind, the event in question is grandfathered into #MeToo
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:28 am to Fewer Kilometers
Man if I want starfishing, I gotta set up the st Andrews cross, get out the blindfold and gag, make sure the paddles are in good shape, clean the clamps. Then I gotta drag her round kicking and screaming for not doing laundry again. Leave her hung up there awhile. God help me if company comes over.
This guy comes home and she's all "fine I'll lay here like this."
No set up, easy clean up, some guys get all the luck.
This guy comes home and she's all "fine I'll lay here like this."
No set up, easy clean up, some guys get all the luck.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 4:12 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:Yeah, dude's a monster.
To be fair, I did go along with it
But women would never use MeToo for vindictive purposes. That's just not like them at all.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 4:31 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Reading her Medium post really gets to me.
She didn't have to agree with somethings. Like the no drinking. He set up the terms and she signed. It was agreed. He didn't force his will in most cases.
Relationships are compromise within a set of agreed upon terms which are dynamic.
She didn't have to agree with somethings. Like the no drinking. He set up the terms and she signed. It was agreed. He didn't force his will in most cases.
Relationships are compromise within a set of agreed upon terms which are dynamic.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 4:45 pm to LSU Coyote
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Reading her Medium post really gets to me.
It was like reading the Aziz Ansari article about the bad date. Don't even know if that was considered a #metoo but it was so stupid.
I am not a huge Hardwick fan but I don't agree with how these types of things are being handled. He will never fully recover from this, even if the allegations are false. If they are true, should he lose his career for being weird in his personal life and demanding his significant others do things that they don't want to do, but not necessarily forcing them to?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:19 pm to SUB
That's what confuses me about this all. There's bad relationships and dates and then a vast gulf before you get to Weinstein casting couch, John K. grooming preteens, Dan Schneider or hell even Louis CK whipping it out.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:18 pm to Bard
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only are we not talking about a criminal complaint, she never actually names him.
Let's take a step back and look what we have...
A man has lost his job(s) because a woman whom he left because she cheated on him wrote something about an unnamed boyfriend that allegedly did cruel (possibly illegal) things to her. No calls to the police, no pictures, no medical records detailing abuse, no voicemails, not even naming him specifically... nothing but the faux accusation from a woman he rejected due to her infidelity.
This is where we are today and it's pathetic.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:29 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Lo and behold...guess he decided to go nuclear and release this text exchange between them.
FWIW, this reads exactly like you would think it would if you'd listened to the guy on his own podcast for years and nothing about it remotely looks like he's the monster she was attempting to paint him to be. Unless of course you're part of the "believe the woman" crowd, in which case your response will be, "Well...this is EXACTLY what an abuser would do!!!"
His break-up text (yeah, I know) is long as frick but it's worth the read if you're at all interested in this story.
LINK
FWIW, this reads exactly like you would think it would if you'd listened to the guy on his own podcast for years and nothing about it remotely looks like he's the monster she was attempting to paint him to be. Unless of course you're part of the "believe the woman" crowd, in which case your response will be, "Well...this is EXACTLY what an abuser would do!!!"
His break-up text (yeah, I know) is long as frick but it's worth the read if you're at all interested in this story.
LINK
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:35 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I genuinely feel bad for the dude. What he's going through is bullshite.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:55 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
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I genuinely feel bad for the dude. What he's going through is bullshite.
Agreed.
I'll admit a bias. I'm a fan of the podcast and have been since the very beginning. I'm not really a fan of his standup, or his other hosting things and honestly, he's the least funny thing on his own podcast (I prefer Matt and Jonah back when they were there every episode) but I still listen to most episodes. And from having listened to it for years I found it nearly impossible to believe that he was really talented enough to pretend that hard to be someone he wasn't for that many hours.
We're not talking about an actor you see in some movies who's reading other people's words, or athletes you really don't know...but a guy who has talked for hours and hours in large part about himself. You'd have to be an incredible actor to pretend that hard for that long.
Reading his break-up text read nearly word for word what I'd expect the guy to write. For all the money and fame inside he still thinks of himself as some bullied geek who's lucky to get the girl. You could see where he was genuinely hurt by the whole thing.
Only other thing, he says in the letter that he'd never talk bad about her on the podcast. From my memory, he kept his word. I honestly don't remember him really ever bringing it up afterwards. She claims he did it on stage at a convention, but if that were true I'm pretty sure we'd have seen 17 different angles of it from nerds in the crowd filing it.
This entire thing is sort of feeling like our grapes and if not made up out of whole cloth, incredibly exaggerated. Hopefully between his outright denial and this release his version gets some traction.
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