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re: Chris Hardwick #metooed in a big way.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:02 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:02 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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The first time I told him I loved him after 6 months of hoping he’d say it first, his response was (and I quote), “I think I love you too, fagt.”
Before today I thought Hardwick was a dweeb
now I think he fricking rules
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:40 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I don't know if I can come up with a real definition for what people are defining as sexual assault anymore.
It used to seem fairly clear. Physical assault which included touching the butt breasts or genitals is probably how I would have described it. If we broaden out to describe sexual harassment I would have said something that involved a sexual quid pro quo.
Now people (typically after the relationship ends) are describing unwanted kissing, oral sex performed before consent was given, sexual jokes, etc as what seems to amount to a near legal equivalent of a stranger grabbing you by the crotch.
That doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense. Especially not unless you really want to see 99.9% of ended relationships be potential grounds for labelling both parties sexual predators. We can't have a legal system that really allows prosecution (or persecution) for the kinds of innocent flirting we hope our parents used early in their courtship.
It used to seem fairly clear. Physical assault which included touching the butt breasts or genitals is probably how I would have described it. If we broaden out to describe sexual harassment I would have said something that involved a sexual quid pro quo.
Now people (typically after the relationship ends) are describing unwanted kissing, oral sex performed before consent was given, sexual jokes, etc as what seems to amount to a near legal equivalent of a stranger grabbing you by the crotch.
That doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense. Especially not unless you really want to see 99.9% of ended relationships be potential grounds for labelling both parties sexual predators. We can't have a legal system that really allows prosecution (or persecution) for the kinds of innocent flirting we hope our parents used early in their courtship.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:03 am to northshorebamaman
I typically agree with you on most subjects, but IF what she said is true, it's pretty fricked up stuff beyond the usual bad breakup.
I actually like Hardwick, so I'm pretty disappointed to read the allegations.
But, we are living in a She said-She said era when corporate CYA policy will automatically assume the allegations are true, so it's a lot more difficult to discern the truth.
I actually like Hardwick, so I'm pretty disappointed to read the allegations.
But, we are living in a She said-She said era when corporate CYA policy will automatically assume the allegations are true, so it's a lot more difficult to discern the truth.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:52 am to PowerTool
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Popular podcaster and TV host Chris Hardwick has been accused of psychological and sexual abuse by his former girlfriend, actress Chloe Dykstra. In a post published to medium on Friday, the 29-year-old Dykstra detailed her three-plus year relationship with Hardwick during which time she was constantly “snapped/yelled at” and sexually assaulted. As a result of his abuse, Dykstra said she suffered from extreme anorexia and was hospitalized due to an ectopic pregnancy. She also said she contemplated suicide.
In a statement released late Friday night, Hardwick denied the allegations. “Our three year relationship was not perfect — we were ultimately not a good match and argued — even shouted at each other — but I loved her, and did my best to uplift and support her as a partner and companion in any way and at no time did I sexually assault her,” Hardwick said.
He went on to accuse Dykstra of infidelity, saying, “When we were living together, I found out that Chloe cheated on me, and I ended the relationship. For several weeks after we broke up, she asked me to get back together with me and even told me she wanted to have kids with me, ‘build a life’ with me and told me that I was ‘the one,’ but I did not want to be with someone who was unfaithful.
“I’m devastated to read that she is now accusing me of conduct that did not occur,” Hardwick said to conclude his statement. “I was blindsided by her post and always wanted the best for her. As a husband, a son, and future father, I do not condone any kind of mistreatment of women.”
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I'm all for rapists getting served justice but if what he says is true she should be publicly shamed. He's already being destroyed on Twitter
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:46 am to PowerTool
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I typically agree with you on most subjects, but IF what she said is true, it's pretty fricked up stuff beyond the usual bad breakup.
If true, it's absolutely fricked up. I just question whether or not it's in the realm of #metoo. I agree, it sounds like it's beyond typical shitty boyfriend stuff
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:48 am to TJGator1215
Looks like Chris has been.....
SINGLED OUT
YEEEAAAA!!!!!!
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:50 am to Dr RC
Posted on 6/16/18 at 4:53 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Chloe Dykstra
Decent fappening bewbs
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:20 am to Fewer Kilometers
No comment regarding the accusation, but, on a side note, I have never understood the appeal of this guy or how he has managed to stay in the public eye. He is not funny, he is not insightful, he is not charming, and he is not talented.
He is right up there with Dane Cook's appeal as something I just do not understand.
He is right up there with Dane Cook's appeal as something I just do not understand.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:38 am to John Keating
His skill is in getting other people to talk.
Just as an example: I'm a huge, longtime Norm MacDonald fan, so I was surprised by how much he got Norm to open up and talk like a normal human being when he was a guest on The Nerdist podcast.
Just as an example: I'm a huge, longtime Norm MacDonald fan, so I was surprised by how much he got Norm to open up and talk like a normal human being when he was a guest on The Nerdist podcast.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:21 am to ipodking
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Chris has built up more than enough good will to make it through this without losing his shows
He will get a new one: Talking Pred
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:54 am to John Keating
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No comment regarding the accusation, but, on a side note, I have never understood the appeal of this guy or how he has managed to stay in the public eye. He is not funny, he is not insightful, he is not charming, and he is not talented. He is right up there with Dane Cook's appeal as something I just do not understand.
Thanks you! All that little frick does is ride the coattails of far more talented people. He probably can’t write for shite so instead he has a show where he talks about shows produced by better men, and then he doesn’t even do a good job of that.
I think the allegations are kind of bull shite though. If you’re in a relationship with a guy then the only accusation I would pay attention to is some kind of rape and it doesn’t seem like that was happening. Just fricking break up with the guy if you don’t like his arbitrary rules
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:16 am to TJGator1215
Chris put that bitch in her place! 
POINTS!
POINTS!
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:21 am to John Keating
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I have never understood the appeal of this guy or how he has managed to stay in the public eye. He is not funny, he is not insightful, he is not charming, and he is not talented.
He’s Ryan Seacrest without the looks or charm.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:27 am to TJGator1215
She said she has proof. Until we see any proof you can't really take sides
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:51 am to poncho villa
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so if you piss off a girl or cheat on her, she can just say "Ohh he sexually assaulted me" and that guy gets fricked.
The best part is that she cheated on him
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:55 am to TJGator1215
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I'm all for rapists getting served justice but if what he says is true she should be publicly shamed. He's already being destroyed on Twitter
I've actually listened to his Nerdist podcast form the very beginning, so I can kind of track much of this story from having heard him talk about some of it in real time.
I specifically remember him talking about the ectoptic pregnancy in detail with Matt and Jonah and about how devastated he was about it. About how they were not intending to have children yet, but once they found out it was not going to survive there was a sens of loss anyway. FWIW, it all seemed pretty genuine.
I also remember the guys giving him shite about her, both for being a lot younger than him and also for just being kind of hard to deal with.
I also remember a story he told on the podcast about them going to Vegas together and her taking him to some strip club and essentially offering a three way...which he turned down. If you've ever heard him talk, you know the guy is not exactly some Lothario and he described her as much wilder than him.
As for the other stuff, some of it just sounds like the shitty kind of things comics tend to say to each other and why comics have a hard time with regular people. Asking how soon they be able to have sex after the ectopic pregnancy SOUNDS like a horrible thing to say, unless you know you're dealing with a comic who tends to make jokes in awkward situations. Same thing with the "I think I love you too, ****," line. If that's not a joke, what is he trying to say...that she's a homosexual man?
Finally, as much as I support the whole MeToo movement in theory, this kind of thing has gone way too far. It ought to be about making it safe for women to be able to come out and make accusations against men who may have abused them in some way and making it so that they can do so safely and get a fair hearing. but what it ought not be is a total blank check for women to accuse men who are then tarred and feathered without providing any evidence at all. What should have happened here was that she got her say, the public should have said, "Huh...that's a pretty harsh accusation. Let's see what he has to say in response." Instead it was immediately try and ruin the guy and any attempt to suggest that MAYBE people wait and see how it all plays out was out of line.
And worse yet, it is now a completely impossible situation to be in as an accused person. If you refuse to answer the charges, you're guilty. If you answer the charges and say they are untrue, you're a liar and victim shaming. The only viable option is self immolation regardless of guilt or innocence. That's insane.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:56 am to PowerTool
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Found her piece on Medium. Best guess as to what's censored here? quote: “I think I love you too, f****t.”
Fa g got
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:08 am to Byron Bojangles III
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She said she has proof. Until we see any proof you can't really take sides
How much do you bet that this "proof" will be some recorded argument that seems entirely one sided but is ultimately pretty begin...and yet it will be used to suggest she's been 100% truthful? After all, he's already said they fought and yelled at each other. I have no doubt that if I had been recorded arguing with an ex-girlfriend I could potentially sound like a huge dickhead. It would not really prove anything, especially if after the fact I acknowledged that we had a fairly bad relationship and we'd yell form time to time.
But...maybe there's more...I really have no idea.
But I also bet that he's got a bunch of crazy texts from her after their break-up that will make her look like some insane ex-girlfriend too. Those will only go to show what he said about her wanting to get back together is also true, in a certain light.
FWIW, I don't think that if he thought there was really much to her story he'd come out guns blazing like that. If you're guilty and you know it, it's best to throw yourself on your sword and begin begging ASAP. and even though it's almost impossible to sway public opinion at this point even if you are 100% innocent, and innocent man would say so, and be kind of pissed about it. I also think that he spent the day talking to his lawyer and deciding exactly what had happened and what he ought to say in response. If he thought she could prove any of this, throwing her under the bus seems like incredibly shitty advice...
I will say that, if I had to bet money, from having listened to him for years, I'd guess he's pretty controlling. And I don't even mean that in some overbearing way, just as "I need to make most of the decisions" kind of way in the way some people lead relationships and the pother party is ok with it. He also describes being stressed so I'd guess he's prone to bouts of being argumentative, etc. So...there were parts of what she said that sounded plausible to a degree. The other stuff, honestly...not really, but I'm open to any evidence there is.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 11:10 am to GeauxTigerTM
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I've actually listened to his Nerdist podcast form the very beginning, so I can kind of track much of this story from having heard him talk about some of it in real time.
I specifically remember him talking about the ectoptic pregnancy in detail with Matt and Jonah and about how devastated he was about it. About how they were not intending to have children yet, but once they found out it was not going to survive there was a sens of loss anyway. FWIW, it all seemed pretty genuine.
I also remember the guys giving him shite about her, both for being a lot younger than him and also for just being kind of hard to deal with.
I also remember a story he told on the podcast about them going to Vegas together and her taking him to some strip club and essentially offering a three way...which he turned down. If you've ever heard him talk, you know the guy is not exactly some Lothario and he described her as much wilder than him.
As for the other stuff, some of it just sounds like the shitty kind of things comics tend to say to each other and why comics have a hard time with regular people. Asking how soon they be able to have sex after the ectopic pregnancy SOUNDS like a horrible thing to say, unless you know you're dealing with a comic who tends to make jokes in awkward situations. Same thing with the "I think I love you too, ****," line. If that's not a joke, what is he trying to say...that she's a homosexual man?
Finally, as much as I support the whole MeToo movement in theory, this kind of thing has gone way too far. It ought to be about making it safe for women to be able to come out and make accusations against men who may have abused them in some way and making it so that they can do so safely and get a fair hearing. but what it ought not be is a total blank check for women to accuse men who are then tarred and feathered without providing any evidence at all. What should have happened here was that she got her say, the public should have said, "Huh...that's a pretty harsh accusation. Let's see what he has to say in response." Instead it was immediately try and ruin the guy and any attempt to suggest that MAYBE people wait and see how it all plays out was out of line.
And worse yet, it is now a completely impossible situation to be in as an accused person. If you refuse to answer the charges, you're guilty. If you answer the charges and say they are untrue, you're a liar and victim shaming. The only viable option is self immolation regardless of guilt or innocence. That's insane.
This...and I dont know about the being removed from Nerdist site stuff, but I do know he hasnt had anything to do with Nerdist for months, long before this came out. He sold it all and removed himself from it to do other things, he even renamed his Nerdist podcast to ID10T
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