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re: Why isn't AI more appreciated?

Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:54 pm to
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give me Tony Parker or Manu over him anyday


oh come on
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:55 pm to
He wasn't very efficient.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:56 pm to
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If that's directed at me I wasn't implying Iverson didn't play with effort and energy. He did.


AI was a thug POS, but he played through injuries to jack up all those shots.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:57 pm to
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He wasn't very efficient.

Impossible to be efficient when your 2nd option on offense is the one the only Matt Geiger
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 2:58 pm
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:59 pm to
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You are exactly the type of poster who he thought would bite when he typed out that line..



He was hoping badass posters would bite? Sweet.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:05 pm to
Yes, just throwing out ideas.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:11 pm to
Just jacked up a bunch of ridiculous fadeaways. Talented, great and appropriately appreciated
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:13 pm to
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#1 they got a damn good player Andre Miller in return(better than any Teammate AI ever had)




off the top of my head

Mutumbo (HOF)
Stackhouse
Iggy
Carmelo Anthony

I'd say all of these players are better than Miller. Maybe Stackhouse is equal to Miller but the rest are far and away better.He also murdered Tim Thomas's development.

Hell he wouldnt even pass the ball to a knock down shooter like Korver.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:15 pm to
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give me Tony Parker or Manu over him anyday
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:24 pm to
Everybody needs to quit making excuses for him. He was a terrible teammate and a selfish player. End of story.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:27 pm to
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Impossible to be efficient when your 2nd option on offense
dude the NBA is comprised of the BEST basketball players in THE WORLD. Even the shittiest guard in the league should be able to hit 40% of open shots.

It doesnt matter if the 76ers had less than average guys on offense. A great player can put them into position to make high percentage shots.

you keep harping on this stupid shite, yet there is no proof that AI made teams MARKEDLY better when he played on them
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:29 pm to
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off the top of my head

Mutumbo (HOF)
Stackhouse
Iggy
Carmelo Anthony

I'd say all of these players are better than Miller. Maybe Stackhouse is equal to Miller but the rest are far and away better.He also murdered Tim Thomas's development.

Hell he wouldnt even pass the ball to a knock down shooter like Korver.


LMAO AI played like 90 games with Stackhouse and most of them were as a rookie he doesn't count.

Iggy was average at best his first 2 seasons in the NBA not even half the player Miller was. Iverson also wasn't in his prime when the played together

Iverson played with Mutombo less than 80 regular season games I would hardly call that "having him". Although what do you know the best guy he played with even though extremely brief AI got to the Finals.

Iverson was well past his prime by the time he got to the Nuggets

Oh and he didn't pass to Kyle Korver? The same Kyle Korver who had his 2nd and 3rd best field attempt seasons playing with AI?
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 3:32 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:30 pm to
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dude the NBA is comprised of the BEST basketball players in THE WORLD. Even the shittiest guard in the league should be able to hit 40% of open shots.

It doesnt matter if the 76ers had less than average guys on offense. A great player can put them into position to make high percentage shots.

you keep harping on this stupid shite, yet there is no proof that AI made teams MARKEDLY better when he played on them


Do you know who Matt Geiger is?

Oh and FYI Eric Snow couldn't hit 40% of his shots alone in a gym with a Fisher Price hoop
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:32 pm to
yea and i know when someone sucks at debating too
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:36 pm to
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Do you know who Matt Geiger is?



Matt Geiger only played for the Sixers for four seasons and started just 64 games for the Sixers? Why the hell do you keep bringing him up?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:38 pm to
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yea and i know when someone sucks at debating too

So you know he is a walking(barely) talking 7 foot stiff turnover machine who has absolutely ZERO scoring ability.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:41 pm to
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Matt Geiger only played for the Sixers for four seasons and started just 64 games for the Sixers? Why the hell do you keep bringing him up?


Because he was the 2nd leading scorer on an NBA team? Unbelievable a team that made it to the 2nd round pf the playoffs. I dare you to show me a team in the history of professional basketball with a worse #2 scorer.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:42 pm to
yea im aware. Are you aware that his stint with AI was very brief?

are you also aware that in the NBA it's 5 on 5 and not 2 on 2?

This is very important because with this knowledge you will come to realize how stupid you are sounding.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:42 pm to
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LMAO AI played like 90 games with Stackhouse and most of them were as a rookie he doesn't count.


Sure it does and the Sixers traded him away because the point guard couldn't play with the two guard.

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Iverson played with Mutombo less than 80 regular season games I would hardly call that "having him".


Mutumbo was the reason they went to the finals and yes that counts.

quote:

Iverson was well past his prime by the time he got to the Nuggets


has nothing do with how you phrased your orignial post.

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Iggy was average at best his first 2 seasons in the NBA not even half the player Miller was. Iverson also wasn't in his prime when the played together



Has nothing to do with your original statement that Andre Miller was a better player than Iverson ever played with.

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The same Kyle Korver who had his 2nd and 3rd best field attempt seasons playing with AI?


what's a field attempt?
and despite the all time high in mins. those years (the reason for the amount of shot attempts) his usage rating was lower than even his rookie year.

translation: He was on the court more and used less because the ball handler wound't get him the ball.


that argument is toast. You have better chance of convincing me Derrick Williams isn't a bust.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:49 pm to
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Sure it does and the Sixers traded him away because the point guard couldn't play with the two guard.
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Mutumbo was the reason they went to the finals and yes that counts.


yes that damn Iverson should of won multiple NBA championships and shot 70% from the field how dare him not pass the ball to these awesome offensive players who he played with for less than 100 games.
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