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re: Why isn't AI more appreciated?
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
At his best AI was pretty damn legit. Too bad he is generally remembered for the other times.
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:15 pm to Bench McElroy
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Maybe it's the fact that he attempted 22 shots per game despite having a career field goal percentage of 42%? If Iverson was less of a ballhog and more efficient from the field, he would have gotten the credit that he deserved.
Is 42% bad for a guard? Seems like that would be a pretty good percentage considering most of the players with high fg percentages are big men. Not a big AI fan btw.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:16 pm to Pilot Tiger
In my opinion, the team that Lebron took the finals was wayyyyy better than the team AI had.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:16 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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his "practice" rant is idiotic. most people like hard workers willing to help the team and shite like that. "practice" went directly against that and regardless of how awesome it is, it's a good reason to think he's a lazy frick.
Did you even listen to what he was saying? I mean he might have missed one practice. And he played hard EVERY night, this is unarguable. How is that not the definition of being a hard worker? If you want to say he was selfish then I sort if get that even though I don't agree, but claiming he wasn't a hard worker is just foolish.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:17 pm to LSUballs
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Says who?
People who know what they're talking about.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:19 pm to CyrustheVirus
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Is 42% bad for a guard? Seems like that would be a pretty good percentage considering most of the players with high fg percentages are big men. Not a big AI fan btw.
A 42% FG pct is awful. There are players in the NBA with better 3 point shooting percentages than that.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:19 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:the 76ers won 6 more games than that Cavs team and was the #1 seed in the East
the team that Lebron took the finals was wayyyyy better than the team AI had
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:20 pm to CyrustheVirus
quote:yes
Is 42% bad for a guard?
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:22 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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In an era where all the other top stars went through the motions for most of the season, AI played like it was game 7 of the NBA Finals every single night and brought an intensity to the floor rarely seen. Even so a lot people say they hated him when he was a player.
Because he didn't play team basketball but expected his teammates to be okay with him shooting the ball all the time.
I blame Pat Croce for empowering Iverson too much early in his career. He traded other scorers away so Iverson could be the main attraction.
AI was selfish.If you ever watched him live, he was most boring player to watch if his shot wasn't falling. He still wouldn't pass and the rest of the team would just be bystanders.
Also he was shitty on ball defender and the reason that team went to the Finals is because they were a great defense, yet he gets credit.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:22 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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People who know what they're talking about.
Having watched the whole career of AI and knowing a little bit about the game I qualify myself. Iverson was not some racehorse of energy and effort in a league full of slackers. Your thread is fricking dumb.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I give AI credit for sticking it out in Philly for 11 years, and not taking the easy way out like Lebron.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:25 pm to Pilot Tiger
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really? and Lebron had so much help in Cleveland?
And so it begins
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:28 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
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In my opinion, the team that Lebron took the finals was wayyyyy better than the team AI had.
How so? That Sixers team had Dikembe Mutombo who was a Defensive Player of the Year and a future HOFer and Aaron McKie won Sixth man of the Year that season as well. They also had Larry Brown as their head coach. The Sixers actually had a winning record (6-5) in the games that Iverson didn't play in 2001. They were an excellent defensive team and probably could have still made the playoffs without Iverson. You can't say the same about Lebron's Cavs teams.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:29 pm to LSUballs
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Having watched the whole career of AI and knowing a little bit about the game I qualify myself.
Oh ok
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Iverson was not some racehorse of energy and effort in a league full of slackers
Ignorant statement. I unqualify you.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:30 pm to Pilot Tiger
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really? and Lebron had so much help in Cleveland?
When or where in my post did I say anything about LeBron?
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Because he played with arguable the worst set of teammate of any superstar in NBA history.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:34 pm to USMC Gators
quote:well you didn't. I did.
When or where in my post did I say anything about LeBron?
You used your perception that the 76ers relied heavily on AI's scoring due to necessity, I'm assuming due to lack of talent. I used Lebron as an example of a player that was on some teams generally perceived as lacking talent, yet strangely, he didnt jack up 27 shots a night and shoot 40% from the field.
AI didn't trust his teammates
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:34 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:interesting.
How so? That Sixers team had Dikembe Mutombo who was a Defensive Player of the Year and a future HOFer and Aaron McKie won Sixth man of the Year that season as well. They also had Larry Brown as their head coach. The Sixers actually had a winning record (6-5) in the games that Iverson didn't play in 2001. They were an excellent defensive team and probably could have still made the playoffs without Iverson. You can't say the same about Lebron's Cavs teams.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:36 pm to USMC Gators
Those sixers teams were actually pretty good considering how weak the east was at the time. They seem weak to the casual fan because they lacked flashy scorers (besides AI)...this was done on purpose. Basically, they had AI the one man offensive threat and then surrounded him by great fitting role players, unselfish defenders to be exact. It made for a good team considering the conference, but basically any volume scorer could have done similar with that team.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
OK. You just made up that Allen Iverson was head and shoulders above his counterparts in term of effort exerted every night. That's bullshite. You made it up.
I should start a retarded thread about some madeup phenominon about a player like you did. Maybe this one:
In an era where all other centers where commiting offensive fouls and tear down backboards, Rick Smits was shooting fade aways and showing great touch. Even so a lot of people hated him as a player.
Was it because he was a goofy white Dutchman?
ETA- I unqualified you
I should start a retarded thread about some madeup phenominon about a player like you did. Maybe this one:
In an era where all other centers where commiting offensive fouls and tear down backboards, Rick Smits was shooting fade aways and showing great touch. Even so a lot of people hated him as a player.
Was it because he was a goofy white Dutchman?
ETA- I unqualified you
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 1:45 pm
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