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re: Too many guys are declaring for the NBA Draft
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:23 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:23 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Me too. Who does he compare to in the NBA? I don't think he's all that good...
Man, I'm way off on Booker
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Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:25 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Makes no sense why someone would declare without a first round guarantee, and none of these guys are going to get a 1st round guarantee.
I don't understand why anyone would leave without a degree unless they were going to be a 1st rounder or lottery pick. The only reason that I can understand is that their families might need money, but how much help is a NBA D-League salary going to provide?
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:27 pm to ReauxlTide222
Oh, most of them absolutely aren't 
It's just funny that these guys are big shots on campus and think they will be making millions, but if they don't get a guaranteed deal, they will likely make 35K next year, if they stay in the U.S.
That's probably below what a typical UK or UW grad makes after graduation.
As for a previous poster's point about guaranteed 2nd round contracts, I wonder how many guys get those. 16 of the 30 2nd round picks have played at least a second in the NBA, but that certainly doesn't mean all of those guys have guaranteed contracts. I still think it's the exception to the rule since I can remember guys like Kyle Singler and KJ McDaniel who were given (relatively) good deals up front. I'd guess about half of those 2nd rounders who have played in the NBA this year got those kinds of deals, so we're talking about 30 guaranteed 1st rounders, plus 7-8 2nd rounders. And probably 3-4 of the first rounders are Euro stash players.
It's just funny that these guys are big shots on campus and think they will be making millions, but if they don't get a guaranteed deal, they will likely make 35K next year, if they stay in the U.S.
That's probably below what a typical UK or UW grad makes after graduation.
As for a previous poster's point about guaranteed 2nd round contracts, I wonder how many guys get those. 16 of the 30 2nd round picks have played at least a second in the NBA, but that certainly doesn't mean all of those guys have guaranteed contracts. I still think it's the exception to the rule since I can remember guys like Kyle Singler and KJ McDaniel who were given (relatively) good deals up front. I'd guess about half of those 2nd rounders who have played in the NBA this year got those kinds of deals, so we're talking about 30 guaranteed 1st rounders, plus 7-8 2nd rounders. And probably 3-4 of the first rounders are Euro stash players.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:38 pm to Keys Open Doors
at Harrison twins
Posted on 4/5/15 at 4:50 pm to Keys Open Doors
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UK will be losing Dakari and the Harrison twins.
LOL, what? Wojo made that claim last year. I am betting Andrew and Johnson comes back...I see Aaron has moved up in the mocks as a 1st rounder.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:53 pm to Keys Open Doors
Bump
Here is somewhat of an update:
I need OPs help for whoever I didnt include
I think these are just people who have said what theyd do
Cliff Alexander – F, Kansas (freshman)
Brandon Ashley – F, Arizona (junior)
Michael Frazier II – G, Florida (junior)
Montrezl Harrell – F, Louisville (junior)
Aaron Harrison - G, Kentucky (sophomore)
Andrew Harrison - G, Kentucky (sophomore)
Tyler Harvey – G, Eastern Washington (junior)
Jerome Hill – F, Gardner-Webb (junior)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson – F, Arizona (sophomore)
R.J. Hunter – G, Georgia State (junior)
Kevon Looney – F, UCLA (freshman)
Jarell Martin – F, LSU (sophomore)
Chris McCullough – F, Syracuse (freshman)
Jordan Mickey – F, LSU (sophomore)
Kelly Oubre – F, Kansas (freshman)
Cameron Payne – G, Murray State (sophomore)
Walter Pitchford – F, Nebraska (junior)
Terry Rozier – G, Louisville (sophomore)
D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera - G, Georgetown (junior) will return
Jherrod Stiggers – G, Houston (junior)
Aaron Thomas – G, Florida State (junior)
J.P. Tokoto - F, North Carolina (junior)
Myles Turner – F, Texas (freshman)
Rashad Vaughn – G, UNLV (freshman)
Here is somewhat of an update:
I need OPs help for whoever I didnt include
I think these are just people who have said what theyd do
Cliff Alexander – F, Kansas (freshman)
Brandon Ashley – F, Arizona (junior)
Michael Frazier II – G, Florida (junior)
Montrezl Harrell – F, Louisville (junior)
Aaron Harrison - G, Kentucky (sophomore)
Andrew Harrison - G, Kentucky (sophomore)
Tyler Harvey – G, Eastern Washington (junior)
Jerome Hill – F, Gardner-Webb (junior)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson – F, Arizona (sophomore)
R.J. Hunter – G, Georgia State (junior)
Kevon Looney – F, UCLA (freshman)
Jarell Martin – F, LSU (sophomore)
Chris McCullough – F, Syracuse (freshman)
Jordan Mickey – F, LSU (sophomore)
Kelly Oubre – F, Kansas (freshman)
Cameron Payne – G, Murray State (sophomore)
Walter Pitchford – F, Nebraska (junior)
Terry Rozier – G, Louisville (sophomore)
D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera - G, Georgetown (junior) will return
Jherrod Stiggers – G, Houston (junior)
Aaron Thomas – G, Florida State (junior)
J.P. Tokoto - F, North Carolina (junior)
Myles Turner – F, Texas (freshman)
Rashad Vaughn – G, UNLV (freshman)
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:06 pm to DollaChoppa
I can't believe Tokoto is declaring for the draft. LOL. Him and Roy must have been butting heads.
May be addition by subtraction for UNC, and may mean they get Ingram now.
May be addition by subtraction for UNC, and may mean they get Ingram now.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:09 pm to REG861
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“I feel like there can be a lot more to me as a player, more than just the defensive player who can occasionally dunk the ball,” Tokoto told Yahoo Sports. “I know I can be so much more, but I’m not sure that I’m pushed to be that much more [in college].
I can understand, he probably feels stuck in a rut as a role player and needs a change. He knows staying or another year wont help him at all.
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May be addition by subtraction for UNC
Yea, I think so as well....
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:44 pm to DollaChoppa
In semi related news, both anton Gil and Shaqquan Arron are transferring from Louisville
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:47 pm to REG861
Here is a weekish old list on that topic:
Providence - Tyler Harris - F
Indiana - Max Hoetzel - F
Indiana - Stanford Robinson - G
Rutgers - Junior Etou - F
Clemson - Patrick Rooks - G
Virginia Tech - Adam Smith - G
UMass - Derrick Gordon - G
Fordham - Eric Paschall - G
Syracuse - BJ Johnson - F
Syracuse - Ron Patterson - G
Kansas State - Marcus Foster - G
Kansas State - Tre Harris - G
Kansas State - Jevon Thomas - G
Arizona State - Connor MacDougall - C
Pitt - Tyrone Haughton - C
Wake Forest - Aaron Rountree - F
Wake Forest - Daniel Green - G
Seton Hall - Jaren Sina - G
Tulsa - Stevie Repichowski - G
Memphis - Pookie Powell - G
Memphis - Nick King - F
Cornell - Shonn Miller - F
Marshall - Tamron Manning -
Marshall - DeVince Boykins -
Iowa State - Clayton Custer - G
Marquette - Steve Taylor Jr - F
South Florida - Dre Clayton - F
South Florida - Anthony Collins - G
George Washington - Darian Bryant - G
George Washington - Nick Griffin - F
Southern Cal - Kahlil Dukes - G
Stony Brook - Scott King - F
Stony Brook - Chris Braley - F
Auburn - Matthew Atewe - C
Ball State - Zavier Turner - G
Southern Illinois - Jalen Pendleton - G
Southern Illinois - Chaz Glotta - G
Southern Illinois - KC Goodwin - G
New Mexico - Arthur Edwards - G
Colorado - Dustin Thomas - F
Towson - Four McGlynn - G
Loyola Marymount - Evan Payne - G
Missouri State - Gavin Thurman - G
Southern Miss - Davon Hayes - F
Southern Miss - Shadell Millinghaus - G
UNC-Charlotte - Keyshawn Woods - G
UNC-Charlotte - Willie Clayton - F
UNC-Charlotte - Mike Thorne - C
Louisville - Anton Gill - G
Drexel - Damion Lee - G
Providence - Tyler Harris - F
Indiana - Max Hoetzel - F
Indiana - Stanford Robinson - G
Rutgers - Junior Etou - F
Clemson - Patrick Rooks - G
Virginia Tech - Adam Smith - G
UMass - Derrick Gordon - G
Fordham - Eric Paschall - G
Syracuse - BJ Johnson - F
Syracuse - Ron Patterson - G
Kansas State - Marcus Foster - G
Kansas State - Tre Harris - G
Kansas State - Jevon Thomas - G
Arizona State - Connor MacDougall - C
Pitt - Tyrone Haughton - C
Wake Forest - Aaron Rountree - F
Wake Forest - Daniel Green - G
Seton Hall - Jaren Sina - G
Tulsa - Stevie Repichowski - G
Memphis - Pookie Powell - G
Memphis - Nick King - F
Cornell - Shonn Miller - F
Marshall - Tamron Manning -
Marshall - DeVince Boykins -
Iowa State - Clayton Custer - G
Marquette - Steve Taylor Jr - F
South Florida - Dre Clayton - F
South Florida - Anthony Collins - G
George Washington - Darian Bryant - G
George Washington - Nick Griffin - F
Southern Cal - Kahlil Dukes - G
Stony Brook - Scott King - F
Stony Brook - Chris Braley - F
Auburn - Matthew Atewe - C
Ball State - Zavier Turner - G
Southern Illinois - Jalen Pendleton - G
Southern Illinois - Chaz Glotta - G
Southern Illinois - KC Goodwin - G
New Mexico - Arthur Edwards - G
Colorado - Dustin Thomas - F
Towson - Four McGlynn - G
Loyola Marymount - Evan Payne - G
Missouri State - Gavin Thurman - G
Southern Miss - Davon Hayes - F
Southern Miss - Shadell Millinghaus - G
UNC-Charlotte - Keyshawn Woods - G
UNC-Charlotte - Willie Clayton - F
UNC-Charlotte - Mike Thorne - C
Louisville - Anton Gill - G
Drexel - Damion Lee - G
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:49 pm to DollaChoppa
Nigel Johnson is also transferring from Kansas state... That's a ridiculous four players now. Will they field a team next year ?
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:52 pm to REG861
The one UK guy I don't get is Dakari Johnson. The rest make sense, but I think Booker and Lyles would be better off coming back.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:54 pm to REG861
Oh shite, just found Jeff Goodman's transfer list for this year
LINK
Its updated 4 days ago though. I like how he ranks the major transfers though. Lotta scrubs out there.
Yea, the exodus some of these teams have is crazy.
College basketball is fricking awesome. I mean, I kinda hate all the transferring when these kids are allegedly students, but between this, the early entrees, and the coaching carousel, the offseason is fairly interesting. It really allows for a team to go from awesome to shite or vice versa.
LINK
Its updated 4 days ago though. I like how he ranks the major transfers though. Lotta scrubs out there.
Yea, the exodus some of these teams have is crazy.
College basketball is fricking awesome. I mean, I kinda hate all the transferring when these kids are allegedly students, but between this, the early entrees, and the coaching carousel, the offseason is fairly interesting. It really allows for a team to go from awesome to shite or vice versa.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:06 am to DollaChoppa
shite Kentucky is likely losing 7 players and they should still be a top 5 team
Did I really see earlier that they have gotten rid of the hardship waivers for transfers?
Did I really see earlier that they have gotten rid of the hardship waivers for transfers?
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:14 am to REG861
Louisville is also losing Shaquaan Aaron (sp?) to transfer too.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:24 am to BluegrassBelle
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Louisville is also losing Shaquaan Aaron (sp?) to transfer too.
beat you to the punch by a few minutes
nice job by Pitino to run off his top two recruits from this season
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:29 am to REG861
I totally missed it on mobile.
It's going to be interesting to see how he fills those voids. I know he picked up that kid from Cleveland State.
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nice job by Pitino to run off his top two recruits from this season
It's going to be interesting to see how he fills those voids. I know he picked up that kid from Cleveland State.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:40 am to Keys Open Doors
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I think UVA and MD are the two best squads next year. Wichita State might actually be top 5. UNC is top 8-10 just based on the general level of attrition in CBB, while they keep basically everyone. I think Miami might be as well.
It will be a strange year.
UNC returns every single player on the team.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:23 am to tiggerthetooth
UNC just had one of their biggest WTF early entries ever, with JP Tokoto declaring.
Still looks like a top 10-12 team, even with that absence. Miami is also losing two promising youngsters who averaged 8 points per game each to transfer. I don't get it. The grass is rarely greener on the other side.
Tokoto isn't magically going to develop a jump shot after 21 years. He called out Roy Williams, too.
Still looks like a top 10-12 team, even with that absence. Miami is also losing two promising youngsters who averaged 8 points per game each to transfer. I don't get it. The grass is rarely greener on the other side.
Tokoto isn't magically going to develop a jump shot after 21 years. He called out Roy Williams, too.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:32 am to Keys Open Doors
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I don't get it. A lot of these guys are basically declaring for the D League, and they'll make less than Accounting and Finance majors with 3.5 gpas if they don't go abroad.
Are people not aware that the 2016 class is miserable, and they're likely to be picked in the 1st round and be guaranteed at least 3 million over 2 years?
So far, I believe Trimble, Damien James, and Justin Jackson are the only guys to verify they will stay in school.
Michael Frazier, Jarrell Martin, Jordan Mickey, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Chris McCulloch, Devantes Smith-Rivera, Rashad Vaughn, Brandon Ashley (likely), and now Woj says that in addition to Booker, Lyles, KAT, and WCS (all making smart choices), UK will be losing Dakari and the Harrison twins.
Makes no sense why someone would declare without a first round guarantee, and none of these guys are going to get a 1st round guarantee.
You can keep saying this it won't make it true
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