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Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:02 pm to
Possibly worse
Posted by Sigma
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:08 pm to
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Fredi is a baseball guy that believes what he sees, and he is seeing W's, so he won't change too much until we hit a rough stretch. It's just hard for baseball people to accept the numbers, and the truth that we are bad offensively, even with Danny Uggla on a good steak


Fredi is the kind of baseball guy Michael Lewis ridicules throughout Moneyball.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:09 pm to
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We're almost 100 games in and Fredi is relying more on what his coaches think the numbers are than what they actually are.



I don't even understand how he can think Schafer is doing a lot. What exactly is he doing a lot of? Besides striking out.
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:10 pm to
Peter Gammons on YES:
"The Braves are closing in on acquiring Carlos Beltran or Hunter Pence. Either trade would be a 3-for-1 deal with Mike Minor being the center-piece."
Posted by glb
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:12 pm to
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What exactly is he doing a lot of?


Maybe it makes everyone else in the lineup feel like they are smashing the ball when they compare themselves to him.
Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:12 pm to
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Peter Gammons on YES:
"The Braves are closing in on acquiring Carlos Beltran or Hunter Pence. Either trade would be a 3-for-1 deal with Mike Minor being the center-piece."


Minor
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:13 pm to
hunter pence please.

not a fan of ethier.. he doesn't even steal bases.
Posted by glb
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:13 pm to
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"The Braves are closing in on acquiring Carlos Beltran or Hunter Pence. Either trade would be a 3-for-1 deal with Mike Minor being the center-piece."


Holy frick... frick trading minor for a 3 month rental!
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:14 pm to
Doesn't make a ton of sense but i agree that it needs to be Pence just based on the fact he's under team control longer than this year
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:16 pm to
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Holy frick... frick trading minor for a 3 month rental!



No kidding. This has Greedy Bastard Mark Texiera v2.0 written all over it. Especially if either of the other 2 prospects has any kind of MLB future.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:17 pm to
i just can't buy that the Mets are going to trade Beltran to a division rival
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:17 pm to
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Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:23 pm to
No way the Braves give up Minor for Beltran, we can't even get picks for him.
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:23 pm to
Gammons said the two other players would be different depending on the trade.

He said Simmons would likely be included in a Pence deal.

He talked more about the Mets though since it was a NY station. Said it would be Minor and two low-mid level prospects since the Braves wouldn't be able to offer Beltran arbitration.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:26 pm to
in an interview on MLB network today i heard the Royals GM say that Melky isn't going anywhere. OF market is really shallow this season.
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:28 pm to
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I will punch a hole in my wall if we get minor and a couple of lower rated braves prospects


Minor and Simmons would be a pretty nice haul.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:30 pm to
I love me some Andrelton Simmons
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:33 pm to
I just don't get this at all. Pence just doesn't fit at all. DOB and Bowman have both said that Heyward is not going to change positions no matter what, so I guess it would be Prado or Pence in CF?
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:34 pm to
Well un realistically I was hoping for Minor and Viz


but thats highly unlikely
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:35 pm to
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He talked more about the Mets though since it was a NY station. Said it would be Minor and two low-mid level prospects since the Braves wouldn't be able to offer Beltran arbitration.



If we give up Minor for a 3 month rental I am going to go ahead and invite anyone living in Atlanta to meet me at the corner of Ponce and Peachtree the day following the trade so that we can all head down to the Ted together and burn down Frank Wren's office.
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