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re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition

Posted on 12/9/10 at 12:32 am to
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 12:32 am to
Yeah that doesn't surprise me

I wouldn't wanna ship Minor off anyways

Besides Lowe, the only two pitcher's I'd ship out right now is JJ and Beachy

I love JJ but he'll only be with us for 3 more years and Beachy will never have a spot with us. I just hope in the next year or so we can get some value out of those guys and improve our offense
This post was edited on 12/9/10 at 12:33 am
Posted by mmjones87
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 12:35 am to
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I would trade Minor for Cain right now


No way. Minor is gonna be a good one.
Posted by The White Lobster
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 12:35 am to
I'd also want to ship out KK if you consider him a pitcher
Posted by mmjones87
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 12:37 am to
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I'd also want to ship out KK if you consider him a pitcher


I thought we sent him back to Japan. But theyre not gonna pay all of his contract?
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 5:02 am to
No moves have been made yet with KK but they have been trying hard to move him and even have a few teams interested

Just trying to find the team where we get to eat the least amount of money possible on his contract
Posted by TheFranchise
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:15 am to
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No moves have been made yet with KK


He has no trade rights relative to Japan. He turned down the chance to go home to prove he belongs in the bigs.

Several Japanese teams were willing to take him and pay about 50% of his contract. Now we are reduced to finding a ML team to take him and we'll get stuck with about $5-$6MM. I would think many teams could use a 5th starter for about $1.5MM.

There aren't going to trade Minor, the only lefty with starting possibility.

I would love to have Ellsbury but I don't think they can work it into the lineup and budget. What do you do with McLouth - he's too expensive to trade. What we've got to hope for is a resurgent Schafer creates competition with McLouth in spring training. Maybe the added competition at the position will force McLouth to improve and one of the two emerges as a solid CF starter.

My biggest concern is with moving Prado to LF. I think he'll do great there. But, my fear is that either or both of Chipper struggles to return or is re-injured and/or Freeman struggles in his first real big league action. Now you have to move Prado to 3B or 1B. There is no real way to plan for that in the budget via offseason moves. At that point, you'd have to trade away some young arms (JJ, Beachy NOT Teheran or Delgado) for a solid LF. But you can't go out and buy that in the offseason and have an expensive piece sitting behind Prado in case Chip or Freeman struggle.
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:38 am to
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I would love to have Ellsbury but I don't think they can work it into the lineup and budget.


Ellsbury is going to make dogshit this year, especially after being hurt all of last year.

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What do you do with McLouth - he's too expensive to trade.


Bite the bullett and just let him be the fourth OF. When Chip can't go you'll have a very serviceable fourth OF to put out there. Yeah sure you have Schafer there to help make the competition tough on Nate but I've given up on both of them. I probably shouldn't have, especially Schafter, but he's been struggling for too long now. Getting off steroids and all those linging injuries have ruined him.

Braves will end up going for an OF either now or at the trade deadline, why not now?

I don't think they'll get Ellsbury or try too hard, especially with him being a LH. But if they don't even call about him today which I'm sure they will just to check in, then that would be really really stupid
This post was edited on 12/9/10 at 9:44 am
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 10:35 am to
Braves lost Scott Diamond to the Rule V draft.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 12:25 pm to
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And if we also signed Sherrill, we'd have an extra arm in the bullpen to hopefully close if he returns to his 2008 lights out self.


Braves sign Sherrill .. to one-year, $1.2 million deal.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 5:52 pm to
Braves top 10 prospects from baseball america.
LINK


1. Julio Teheran, rhp
2. Freddie Freeman, 1b
3. Randall Delgado, rhp
4. Mike Minor, lhp
5. Craig Kimbrel, rhp
6. Matt Lipka, ss
7. Arodys Vizcaino, rhp
8. Brandon Beachy, rhp
9. Brett Oberholtzer, lhp
10. J.J. Hoover, rhp

Teheran:

Scouting Report: Teheran has an electric arm, the ability to throw all of his pitches for strikes and the knowledge of how to exploit batters’ weaknesses. His fastball clocks consistently in the 94-96 mph range, and he maintains his velocity throughout the course of a game. He has a pair of above-average secondary pitches, with his changeup grading slightly better than his curveball. His changeup shows nice fade and he’s willing to throw it in any count. His curve resides in the low 80s with hard downward movement, as well as good bite and depth. Teheran’s command is impressive, though he struggled a little with his precision shortly after being promoted to Double-A. He works both sides of the plate, usually keeping all of his offerings at the knees and below. Perhaps the most impressive part of his game is his mound presence. He has great makeup and bountiful confidence, backing down from no hitter. Teheran needs to get stronger, but that will come naturally as his body matures. Some scouts say his delivery has a little bit of violence and worry about the long-term wear and tear on the elbow and shoulder, while others believe he throws easy gas and aren’t worried about his mechanics. Comparisons to a young Pedro Martinez are commonplace, and Teheran’s biggest backers think he’s more advanced at the same stage of his career.

The Future: The Braves thought Teheran was capable of jumping on the fast track, and he exceeded their expectations in 2010, advancing to Double-A as a teenager with little difficulty. He may split this year between Mississippi and Triple-A Gwinnett, with a late-season cup of coffee in Atlanta a possibility. Chances are his first opportunity for a job in the big league rotation won’t come until 2012. He has front-of-the-rotation talent and will challenge Tommy Hanson for the role as the Braves’ No. 1 starter well by the middle of the decade.
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Crede15
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Posted on 12/16/10 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 12/16/10 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17214 posts
Posted on 12/16/10 at 2:53 pm to
Well, they just changed the name of the article to Braves remain optimistic about extending Uggla which I guess is a bit more qualified but still it sounds likely. Really the same money per year that he turned down from the Marlins, just an extra year.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28726 posts
Posted on 12/16/10 at 3:17 pm to
I wouldnt do 5/60 mil but they might not have a choice.
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 12/16/10 at 3:18 pm to
They don't have a choice really.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30292 posts
Posted on 12/16/10 at 3:23 pm to
Stop all the spending..it's futile..surrender.



Posted by Geauxingthedistance
Member since Apr 2010
436 posts
Posted on 12/16/10 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

Stop all the spending..it's futile..surrender


Well I hope the Phillies keep spending. The more the Yankees and the Phillies spend, the harder I laugh when they lose.
Posted by vampirepotato10
Mandeville, LA
Member since May 2009
1354 posts
Posted on 1/3/11 at 9:25 pm to
Jon Sciambi is announcing the Harlem Globetrotters game on ESPN2. That guy was pretty awesome as a Braves announcer. I bet this isn't what he had in mind when he left for ESPN.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40950 posts
Posted on 1/3/11 at 9:30 pm to
He does stuff like women's basketball and the MLB in Puerto Rico when not doing the Globetrotters.

Should've stayed on. Instead we get Chip “Line drive base hit! … caught out there!” Caray.
Posted by Tmon225
Member since Jun 2009
7250 posts
Posted on 1/3/11 at 9:36 pm to
He does most of the Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday night baseball games on ESPN radio.
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