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re: LeBron's stalker Windhorst is reporting Bron and Gilbert feuding over financials
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:59 pm to Smoke7024
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:59 pm to Smoke7024
quote:So again, Gilbert promises Lebron he'd spend unconditionally. He did not.
They've spent substantially more and will be getting hammered with luxury tax if they spend more. I read they're close to it going up $3.25/1 going forward. Fringe players won't make much of a difference anyway when rotations are shortened in the playoffs.
Sure, rotations shorten up but you're missing one other piece. Now they're a little thin which has caused Lebron to be league leader in minutes played in part because Gilbert didn't spend unconditionally, something he allegedly promised Lebron he'd do.
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:03 pm to shel311
I think Lebron had some sense of what they'd spend when he tweeted bye to Delly and congrats on the money right as the news of the Bucks offer broke.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 7:15 pm to Smoke7024
quote:let's look at all the teams that lost bc they were afraid of the tax..
They've spent substantially more and will be getting hammered with luxury tax if they spend more. I read they're close to it going up $3.25/1 going forward.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:49 pm to shel311
quote:
shel311
It's kind of shocking to me that you don't fully grasp how the NBA salary works... there is no such thing as "spending unconditionally" i.e. you can't be over the cap and just be like "well we're going to sign this guy and take the lux tax hit."
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:31 pm to Broski
quote:
It's kind of shocking to me that you don't fully grasp how the NBA salary works
quote:No kidding.
there is no such thing as "spending unconditionally" i.e. you can't be over the cap and just be like "well we're going to sign this guy and take the lux tax hit."
You may wanna reread my posts in this thread.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:39 pm to shel311
quote:cmon now. Yes, Cleveland isn't technically spending money "unconditionally" but there's no way that Cleveland should be held to that standard because that is so beyond unreasonable. Cleveland literally has the highest salary in the history of the league. If LeBron is actually getting upset that they aren't technically spending unconditionally even when they have this historic level of team salary then I don't know what to tell him
It is but if it's true that Gilbert promised Lebron that he'd spend unconditionally, then Lebron probably has a legit beef, even if Cleveland has spent more than any other team.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:09 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
let's look at all the teams that lost bc they were afraid of the tax..
Brooklyn spent like 197 million at one point. Sure worked out for them to spend money "unconditionally"
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:21 pm to shel311
quote:
You may wanna reread my posts in this thread.
I did, you kept mentioning how Lebron got burned because Gilbert said he would "spend unconditionally".
If that was said, Gilbert is an idiot for straight up lying to him and if Lebron believed that could actually happen when he has been in the league for as long as he has been, then he is just as much an idiot.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:38 pm to Broski
i honestly dont even see how lebron could be upset at the spending right now. there is nothing that cleveland can do in regards to spending more. there would be no free agent they could sign that would realistically help the team. and even if there was, unless they stil have some of their MLE left, they could only sign said free agent to the veteran minimum
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 1/27/17 at 2:39 am to WestCoastAg
They're capped out. LeBron dug This "hole" (they won the title last season and are a shoe in for it this year, are they really struggling?) they're in.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 5:28 am to LSUMastermind
quote:Thompson was a major contributor on that team. He's one of the best offensive rebounders in the league and worked his arse off in that GS series.
you think they won because of Thompson.
Lets at least attempt to be serious.
$81 million is a lot of money, but that's his worth under the new cap and they absolutely needed him last season. The Cavs went through a similar stretch around a year ago and likely will be fine once Smith comes back.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:28 am to WestCoastAg
quote:Then Gilbert shouldn't have allegedly promised to do just that, correct?
but there's no way that Cleveland should be held to that standard
quote:That's a clever little math trick largely based on the booming salary cap. Could be wrong but I'm guessing if you look at that top 5 or 10 all time, it's literally with teams from this season?
Cleveland literally has the highest salary in the history of the league.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:29 am to Broski
quote:feed, you still don't understand. No one is thinking Gilbert should just go out and add $50mil to the payroll right now.
If that was said, Gilbert is an idiot for straight up lying to him and if Lebron believed that could actually happen when he has been in the league for as long as he has been, then he is just as much an idiot.
Still not sure what you're missing here.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:33 am to WestCoastAg
quote:I thought that too, until I read the espn article. There are ways they can add salary. It would mostly be taxed at a crazy $3.25/1 rate, but again, if Gilbert promised unconditional spending, the tax should never factor into his decision.
there is nothing that cleveland can do in regards to spending more
And as I mentioned before, it may also stem from Cleveland not matching on Mozgov or more likely Delly. I'm certainly not a Delly fan but we know lebron loves the guy, and he'd actually help out on this team at the very least to be able to reduce Lebron's League leading minutes played.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:20 am to shel311
So what quantifies as "spending unconditionally" since that's the trope you are clinging to?
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:34 am to Broski
quote:You're acting like I just randomly used the term because I wanted to.
So what quantifies as "spending unconditionally" since that's the trope you are clinging to?
It really seems like you don't realize it comes from the article, it's a pretty good guess at this point that you didn't bother to read the article.
And to answer your question, you wouldn't quantify it, it would be spending without conditions or limits. It's really not that tough to comprehend.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:18 am to shel311
One thing I'd be willing to bet on is that Dan Gilbert will frick this up.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:20 am to shel311
quote:
Lebron's League leading minutes played.
this
dude shouldn't have to go 44 minutes in mid-January in New Orleans. that adds up by the time you get to late May and into June
Posted on 1/27/17 at 11:07 am to shel311
quote:maybe Lebron shouldn't be holding gilbert to his exact wording and should look around and see that Cleveland has pretty much spent unconditionally?
Then Gilbert shouldn't have allegedly promised to do just that, correct?
quote:so? Your point is?
That's a clever little math trick largely based on the booming salary cap
Posted on 1/27/17 at 11:08 am to shel311
quote:
there is no such thing as "spending unconditionally"
quote:So there's no such thing in reality but Gilbert should still be doing it.
it would be spending without conditions or limits.
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