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re: LeBron's stalker Windhorst is reporting Bron and Gilbert feuding over financials
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:34 am to LSUMastermind
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:34 am to LSUMastermind
quote:When the salary cap goes up by leaps and bounds, each player's monetary value goes up by the same %
Market value because of tv deal and value to the team on the floor are 2 different things.
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:34 am to Broski
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I just don't understand the move because it's not like Cleveland is in any position to make a big move without parting with big players... not sure I see the endgame here.
There is none, its panic by a player/gm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:34 am to shel311
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Not if you look at the current contracts being given out. Didn't Mozgov get 4/64? 5/82 for Thompson isn't bad at all comparatively.
Well that's a completely unfair comparison considering the coming cap change that was being talked about before this past offseason.
And Mosgov 4/64 being a terrible deal doesn't make Thompson's a good one.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:34 am to shel311
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When the salary cap goes up by leaps and bounds, each player's monetary value goes up by the same %
agreed, what about their play?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:36 am to shel311
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When the salary cap goes up by leaps and bounds, each player's monetary value goes up by the same %
Ok cool, even with the cap spike, Cleveland is still currently strapped to make moves due to lux tax hell.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:36 am to Dawgsontop34
Yeah some were saying the Hawks got a decent deal in Bazemore, but I think we're going to regret it in the long run. The cap making such a large increase in one year really caused a lot of guys to be overpaid. They'll start to even out some in the coming years.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:37 am to Smoke7024
Those free agents this past summer hit the jackpot.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:37 am to Dawgsontop34
Not saying Tristan Thompson is a huge difference maker, but in a 7 game series as close as the NBA Finals was, you don't think Tristan's 10 and 10 on 63% shooting made a difference compared to what they'd probably get if they didn't sign him, which would be a vet minimum type PF...you don't think that could have been the difference between winning and losing a title?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:40 am to Broski
quote:That's obvious, everyone knows that.
Ok cool, even with the cap spike, Cleveland is still currently strapped to make moves due to lux tax hell.
We're freaking out about this report when we don't really know the actual details about what it's over.
The way I understand it, since CLE is over the cap, any trade they make basically has to have contracts add up, so it doesn't even sound like it's about Lebron wanting some big contract guy coming in and Gilbert saying no he doesn't want to spin the extra money, because CLE would have to give the other team back roughly the same amount in contracts.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:40 am to LSUMastermind
quote:In last year's NBA Finals, you tell me?
agreed, what about their play?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:41 am to shel311
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Not saying Tristan Thompson is a huge difference maker, but in a 7 game series as close as the NBA Finals was, you don't think Tristan's 10 and 10 on 63% shooting made a difference compared to what they'd probably get if they didn't sign him, which would be a vet minimum type PF...you don't think that could have been the difference between winning and losing a title?
no, Irving is the reason they won that title. He outplayed Curry. To pay Thompson or anyone of his make up 80 plus million is insane, you could have gotten 3 guys just like him for that money.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:41 am to shel311
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then they went out and won a title with the team Lebron "built"
And somehow, if they didn't fire Blatt, it somehow wasn't gonna work out. After the very 1st game that Lue coached since he was hired, he said that the team was out of shape, and couldn't play the style of basketball they wanted to because of it. Chalk up another good move by the organization at that time.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:42 am to shel311
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Not saying Tristan Thompson is a huge difference maker, but in a 7 game series as close as the NBA Finals was, you don't think Tristan's 10 and 10 on 63% shooting made a difference compared to what they'd probably get if they didn't sign him, which would be a vet minimum type PF...you don't think that could have been the difference between winning and losing a title?
Not saying it didn't and it probably did, but if Lebron didn't publicly demand a max for him does he sign for less freeing up more money?
I'm legitimately asking. He probably gets the max somewhere so does he stay with the Cavs for a little less or go play for Charlotte for the max? I think if I'm the Cavs i'd take that chance and at least negotiate.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:43 am to shel311
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In last year's NBA Finals, you tell me?
you think they won because of Thompson.
Lets at least attempt to be serious.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:43 am to shel311
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he doesn't want to spin the extra money,
Spin the wheel.
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because CLE would have to give the other team back roughly the same amount in contracts.
So moves were made per Lebron's request, ship starts to hit a rough patch and now Lebron is pissed because moves can't be made due to his previous requests.
Do you not atleast see how this comes off a little puzzling?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:44 am to Fus0623
James is being a whinny bitch per usual
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:45 am to LSUMastermind
quote:The true bias always comes out. I hope you weren't the poster on page 1 that said you don't hate Lebron.
no, Irving is the reason they won that title
quote:To think there are 3 guys for 1/3 of the price who can go 10/10 on 63% shooting in the NBA Finals is LOL funny. But you also don't think Lebron was the reason they won the Finals, so it kinda all has come together here.
o pay Thompson or anyone of his make up 80 plus million is insane, you could have gotten 3 guys just like him for that money.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:47 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:He may sign for less, we'll never know.
but if Lebron didn't publicly demand a max for him does he sign for less freeing up more money?
But no, it does not free up more money, it would have only saved Dan Gilbert in luxury tax, which Lebron does not care about.
Everyone needs to understand if they were able to get Tristan Thompson for $5mil a year cheaper, that does not free up $5mil a year to go sign someone else.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:48 am to LSUMastermind
quote:If you're gonna troll, at least try harder.
you think they won because of Thompson.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:50 am to shel311
Who cares? The point is that they can't make any moves. What else would Lebron like them to do?
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