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LeBron's stalker Windhorst is reporting Bron and Gilbert feuding over financials
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:12 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:12 am
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ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst, citing multiple sources, reported on Thursday morning that there is tension between James and Cavaliers leadership centered around payroll spending: James and team owner Dan Gilbert have different viewpoints on the issue and it has been straining the relationship, sources said.
[...] Gilbert paid $82 million in salaries and $7 million in luxury tax in 2014-15. Last season, Gilbert paid $107 million in salaries and $54 million in luxury tax. Currently, the Cavs are committed to $127.6 million and $27 million in luxury taxes for this season. The team has spent more than any other NBA team over the three-year span.
James, however, has grown frustrated as he perceives the Cavaliers have slowed new spending this season following the franchise winning its first championship, sources said.
Honestly idk what James wants right now. Last year he said pay TT and they maxed him out. Kyrie and Love are maxed out. Pipe is on a big deal. I know there's a luxury tax and Gilbert has the power to spend significantly over, but at some point, there's a limit.
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:13 am to Fus0623
$127 million payroll + $28 million in luxury tax
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:13 am to Fus0623
Good lord. What else would Lebron like for them to do?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:16 am to Fus0623
He's paid the most of any owner in the league over the last two years.
On top of that, he LITERALLY can't do anything unilaterally because he's so high over the cap. They've traded several draft picks to mortgage the future. All they can do is trade dollar for dollar.
On top of that, he LITERALLY can't do anything unilaterally because he's so high over the cap. They've traded several draft picks to mortgage the future. All they can do is trade dollar for dollar.
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:16 am to Smoke7024
who the f knows. This guy is really making himself look bad. Almost same roster as last year and he is getting nervous by basically trying to move Kevin Love.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:17 am to Fus0623
I wonder if it's about future ownership. I know a lot of people have speculated this, and I have some "best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out" info from a buddy that says LeBron came back due to a handshake deal on that. I know Gilbert has to give in to him, but you're making a deal with the devil when you do that. Wojnarowski said it best:
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For all the agent competitors complaining over Klutch Sports' control in Cleveland, it is the kind of leverage no agent would ever reject over an NBA franchise. Outside of his own maximum contract, James and Klutch Sports could turn the Cavaliers into one of the loose slot machines across the street in Gilbert's casinos. It worked with client Tristan Thompson, whom they leveraged into a five-year, $82 million contract. Rival agents find themselves spending more time with clients who end up with the Cavaliers, if only because Rich Paul and his associates work to pilfer players for Klutch Sports, promising the power of James' influence in contract talks with the team.
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:20 am to Fun Bunch
There really isn't any move they can make that can improve where they're at now. The losing slump is on him as the leader of the team. If he wants this team to get out of this rut, he's gotta push the guys he's got harder, not throw his arm up and say "I quit, get me better players"
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:20 am to LSUMastermind
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who the f knows. This guy is really making himself look bad
Everyone said he was a jackass loser failed gm want to be coach a-hole last year for getting Blatt fired, and having TT get a maxed out deal. Well, that worked, so now we have to find something else to now be mad at LeBron about, because what else is left.This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 9:21 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:20 am to Fus0623
Nothing like spending someone elses money is there?
Lebron deserves this for demanding they max a guy in TT that can be replaced by 10 other guys in the league for half the price
Lebron deserves this for demanding they max a guy in TT that can be replaced by 10 other guys in the league for half the price
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:23 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Ah, the Lebron is a bad GM posts really stopped after the Finals last season for some "weird" reason. But here we go again...
Lebron deserves this for demanding they max a guy in TT that can be replaced by 10 other guys in the league for half the price
quote:Lebron probably doubled the CLE franchise value in 1 day, so no he does not give 2 shits about spending all the money he made for Dan Gilbert.
Nothing like spending someone elses money is there?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
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Everyone said he was a jackass loser failed gm want to be coach a-hole last year for getting Blatt fired, and having TT get a maxed out deal. Well, that worked, so now we have to find something else to now be mad at LeBron about, because what else is left.
this episode isnt doing his image any favors. and yes the TT deal looks bad.
I dont hate the guy btw.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:27 am to shel311
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Lebron probably doubled the CLE franchise value in 1 day, so no he does not give 2 shits about spending all the money he made for Dan Gilbert.
so its ok?
where does it stop
The TT deal was terrible, hopefully you can admit that. The Warriors have him spooked and that money he got for TT could have been used to sign a "playmaker" or did they need a "playmaker" last season as well?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:28 am to shel311
Not disputing the revenue he has brought to the franchise. Probably 10 fold the luxury tax they are paying.
Them winning a championship last year proves nothing of Lebron's ability to be a talent elevator. I hope they let him keep making decisions because he'll keep making the Cavs overpay for the players he likes personally.
Them winning a championship last year proves nothing of Lebron's ability to be a talent elevator. I hope they let him keep making decisions because he'll keep making the Cavs overpay for the players he likes personally.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 9:30 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:29 am to LSUMastermind
quote:That's a bit of an overstatement. His image is pretty well set right now, whether good or whoever thinks it's bad. This isn't changing much.
this episode isnt doing his image any favors.
quote:Not if you look at the current contracts being given out. Didn't Mozgov get 4/64? 5/82 for Thompson isn't bad at all comparatively.
and yes the TT deal looks bad
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:30 am to shel311
He has a point. The Cavs are kinda stuck because several guys are being overpaid.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:31 am to LSUMastermind
quote:He's the most important player on the team. He's using his leverage to control management. We don't like it because we rarely ever see players have that kind of control, but if you have it, why would you not use it? Good for him.
so its ok?
where does it stop
quote:Not sure you know about the rising salary cap this season and going forward. The deal is not bad at all if you do understand that and have seen some of the deals going around.
The TT deal was terrible, hopefully you can admit that
quote:How so? Not trying to be an a-hole, but it sounds like you may not be too well versed on salary cap stuff with regards to the NBA. Explain to me how they could have just gone out and signed a playmaker with the Tristan Thompson money?
and that money he got for TT could have been used to sign a "playmaker"
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:31 am to shel311
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Not if you look at the current contracts being given out. Didn't Mozgov get 4/64? 5/82 for Thompson isn't bad at all comparatively
Two stupids dont make a smart. They are both awful deals.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:31 am to shel311
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Not if you look at the current contracts being given out. Didn't Mozgov get 4/64? 5/82 for Thompson isn't bad at all comparatively.
Market value because of tv deal and value to the team on the floor are 2 different things.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:31 am to shel311
I just don't understand the move because it's not like Cleveland is in any position to make a big move without parting with big players... not sure I see the endgame here.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:32 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Fwiw, I'm not really trying to say he's a great talent evaluator or GM. I'm just mocking the 100s of posts and posters during just last season mocking Lebron the terrible GM saying he's making all the personnel decisions, then they went out and won a title with the team Lebron "built"
Them winning a championship last year proves nothing of Lebron's ability to be a talent elevator.
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