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Leaving a job with class
Posted on 5/20/16 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 5/20/16 at 6:22 pm
I am currently in my first job out of grad school. I've been in the position for two years. Today I received an offer from a competitor firm--35% pay increase.
I've never left a job before, so I am wondering about proper protocol for putting in notice. I'm planning on putting in my two weeks and sticking around to hand off all of my stuff to other members of my team. Is verbal notice sufficient, or should I put something in writing? What is the best way to navigate this conversation? I'm on good terms with the current employer and enjoy my current position, but the money is too much to pass up and I don't think my current employer could match it (even if they made a counteroffer, I'm not sure how I would feel about accepting).
In the past year, several members of our team have left for competitors and been allowed to work their two weeks. I understand that is slightly abnormal, so I thought I would include that bit.
I've never left a job before, so I am wondering about proper protocol for putting in notice. I'm planning on putting in my two weeks and sticking around to hand off all of my stuff to other members of my team. Is verbal notice sufficient, or should I put something in writing? What is the best way to navigate this conversation? I'm on good terms with the current employer and enjoy my current position, but the money is too much to pass up and I don't think my current employer could match it (even if they made a counteroffer, I'm not sure how I would feel about accepting).
In the past year, several members of our team have left for competitors and been allowed to work their two weeks. I understand that is slightly abnormal, so I thought I would include that bit.
Posted on 5/20/16 at 6:38 pm to tigercross
My wife left her firm by getting up, walking to her boss, and telling him.
She was appreciative of the opportunity she was given and helped find a replacement while they settled on an end date that worked for every one.
The boss even threw a party for her at their nice Uptown NO house.
Be a professional and if they are professionals, it will be fine. If they are not, be glad you left.
She was appreciative of the opportunity she was given and helped find a replacement while they settled on an end date that worked for every one.
The boss even threw a party for her at their nice Uptown NO house.
Be a professional and if they are professionals, it will be fine. If they are not, be glad you left.
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 5/20/16 at 6:41 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Be a professional and if they are professionals, it will be fine. If they are not, be glad you left.
This.
It is not at all unusual for someone to do some exploring in the early years of a career, in fact I think it's a great idea. Good firms understand this.
The place where I work closely follows this policy and we wind up hiring back a good number of them 2-3 years later. The ones we wanted, that is.
Posted on 5/20/16 at 7:12 pm to tigercross
Type up a letter, deliver in person and tell your boss verbally. Let them know you will help make the transition as easy as possible. Do not accept a counter offer
Posted on 5/20/16 at 7:21 pm to HeadyMurphey
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Type up a letter, deliver in person and tell your boss verbally. Let them know you will help make the transition as easy as possible. Do not accept a counter offer
I agree with this.
Posted on 5/21/16 at 5:38 am to tigercross
There was a pretty good article on this subject in Forbes about a week-and-a-half ago: " Ten Things Never To Say As You Quit Your Job."
Posted on 5/21/16 at 6:34 am to Doc Fenton
Since this is your first real job, you think it's the toughest thing ever. I sure did when I quit. I even told my dad "this is the hardest thing il ever have to do". He just laughed. It's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Just be cordial and professional and to the point. Let them know you've decided to pursue a position with another company. Don't get into where you're going or why you're leaving. Less is more. Good luck.
Posted on 5/21/16 at 9:02 am to HeadyMurphey
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Type up a letter, deliver in person and tell your boss verbally. Let them know you will help make the transition
This.
And what the guy above this said. If THEY are professional they will act professional. Happens all the time.
2 week notice and letter both to boss and HR. Keep a copy for yourself. Also, can send email as well so there is a paper trail of receiving notice, if you think someone will be shitty.
If you do all of these things they may try and match the other offer. If that is something you consider.
You always have to put YOURSELF in the best situation. That company would do the same. Just do it the right way, as it sounds like you want to do.
Posted on 5/21/16 at 9:10 am to tigercross
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I've never left a job before, so I am wondering about proper protocol for putting in notice.
Ensure that you have passed all relevant background/drug tests with new employer prior to putting in your two weeks.
Type up a letter of resignation, thanking them for the opportunity.. Deliver to boss in person and let him know how appreciative you are and that you are committed to finishing out your two weeks.
Should be no issue. Don't be surprised to get a counter from your current employer. Ensure you think through that should it happen. Would you stay at your current employer for the same money? Would you stay at your current for slightly less than new employer? Have that all figured out.
Posted on 5/21/16 at 10:35 am to tigercross
You should type a resignation letter which states your final day 2 weeks out. Then find a time to talk to your boss...just sit down, hand over the letter and tell him. You probably discuss it for 15 minutes.
Posted on 5/21/16 at 1:27 pm to HeadyMurphey
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Do not accept a counter offer
I think it depends on the reason for leaving. If it's purely about money and they counter/match then maybe it makes sense to stay. Especially if your seniority earns you extra vacation, etc. If it's also about opportunity or quality of life then I'd agree.
I graduated and started working right before the .com bubble burst. So I didn't see any big raises/promotions for a few years. When I started looking around, I got an offer for a 50% raise. Most companies won't match such a big raise anyway, but exceptions can always be made. My boss's boss had to get the CFO involved and they matched the offer and I stayed for a few more years.
I was glad I stayed as I was working on some significant projects that I got to see through to the end. From those years, I really built my reputation and know that I could always go back if I wanted to. Even better is that many of those people I worked with have gone to other companies which now give me an in there.
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:18 pm to cwill
Is it bad to use your final two weeks with a company and use your vacation? Given you have no work to pass off....
Posted on 5/22/16 at 6:54 pm to tigercross
Thanks, y'all. Pretty much what I expected.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 7:56 am to tigercross
If it's a white collar professional/career job (which it sounds like it is), 2 weeks notice is light. 3 weeks or a month.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:10 am to tigercross
Don't sweat it. I thought it was Earth-shattering when I left my first job too, but it was no sweat. Do what is right for you and resist any temptation to be a jackass on the way out. Like others have said, type up a latter and tell your boss in person. Don't accept a counter offer and smile on your way out.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:37 am to poochie
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Since this is your first real job, you think it's the toughest thing ever. I sure did when I quit. I even told my dad "this is the hardest thing il ever have to do". He just laughed. It's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Just be cordial and professional and to the point. Let them know you've decided to pursue a position with another company. Don't get into where you're going or why you're leaving. Less is more. Good luck.
This completely. Now I realize how easy it was to do so. Of course, both sides were professional and cordial. And it was a great decision for a number of reasons.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 1:32 pm to Jorts R Us
I don't understand why people are saying not to accept a counter offer. If you don't like the job, then obviously don't even consider a counter offer. But if you like it, and you're leaving for the money, I don't see why you shouldn't accept a competitive counter.
Are you paranoid about taking a counter offer and then getting fired as soon as they find someone to replace you?
edit: Again, if you're looking around because you aren't happy in your job, then yeah, you shouldn't accept a counter offer. It probably won't fix the problems you were having, unless there's an agreement to move you into a new position or otherwise change your circumstances that are more suitable for you.
But if you were looking around because you think you're worth more than you're being paid, I don't see why you wouldn't consider taking a counter offer.
Are you paranoid about taking a counter offer and then getting fired as soon as they find someone to replace you?
edit: Again, if you're looking around because you aren't happy in your job, then yeah, you shouldn't accept a counter offer. It probably won't fix the problems you were having, unless there's an agreement to move you into a new position or otherwise change your circumstances that are more suitable for you.
But if you were looking around because you think you're worth more than you're being paid, I don't see why you wouldn't consider taking a counter offer.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:30 pm to Hog on the Hill
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I don't understand why people are saying not to accept a counter offer.
Because this puts you on the first list if there were layoffs. They now know that you're looking elsewhere to work and they won't be scared to cut you loose at their first chance.
I just quit a job a month or so ago that I loved. I was nervous to tell my boss because I hate disappointing anyone but as soon as I told him and we discussed it, he was cool and I was relieved.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:48 pm to Hog on the Hill
I've accepted a counter in the past and it worked out. I'd warned my employer that I and others were underpaid and that they needed to adjust. They refused to give me an adjustment so I went out and got an offer for 10% higher than I asked to be adjusted to. My employer tried to counter with a match so I had them beat it by 5% because the new company appeared to have better benefits.(and I was a little pissed)
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