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I know NOTHING about investing...help me get started with the basics

Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:32 pm
Posted by zacata88
Member since Mar 2014
1682 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:32 pm
I literally know nothing about investing...no one in my family comes from the kind of background where they would know anything about it, I (probably stupidly) avoided any kind of accounting/finance class that I could take, I've never read a book on it, and I just recently started working at a job where I would have anything left over at the end of the month.

I'm looking for a) opinions from this board, as collectively you all seem to know what you're talking about most of the time, and/or b) good books/resources to read on the topic.

As of now, I probably have about $500 a month that I could invest...no, it's not a ton, but right now it sits in savings and collects about $0.36 of interest per year. I also put about $150 in a 401k every month but that's not adding up quickly and I'm sure there are better options out there.

Based on these figures, what would be the best way to get started on investment? Any information you have (where to put it, how to monitor it, whether (or how long) it has to sit before it's accessible, etc.) would be great.

Thanks!
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13653 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:34 pm to
If you outline your goals of saving/duration, it would be helpful. Saving for retirement, saving 3 years for a down payment on a house, etc.
Posted by zacata88
Member since Mar 2014
1682 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:38 pm to
I would ideally like to put some in a "long ways down the road" retirement type fund, as well in some in a more of a quicker, few-years type of return situation. I don't know how reasonable this is or what kind of options are out there for either scenario.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

.help me get started with the basics

1) Buy low, sell high.
2) Only buy stocks that are going to go up.
3) Don't lose money.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42467 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:54 pm to
Avoid stocks. Watch Martin Shkreli's intro to finance videos on YouTube.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18913 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:12 pm to
1) Google "Vanguard"

2) Open Roth IRA

3) Buy $1,000 worth of a Target Retirement mutual fund based on your retirement date plus 10 years.
So if you're retiring in 2045 then buy the 2055 target date fund.

4) Invest $458.33 per month (that's the max you can contribute per year).

5) Put the other $40 in RobinHood (an app) to learn how difficult it is to buy stocks without losing too much money.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 7:13 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Avoid stocks


Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10262 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

As of now, I probably have about $500 a month that I could invest...no, it's not a ton, but right now it sits in savings and collects about $0.36 of interest per year. I also put about $150 in a 401k every month but that's not adding up quickly and I'm sure there are better options out there.



How much do yo make per year? $500/month is enough to fully fund a Roth IRA each year.

If you make too much to contribute to a Roth IRA, just up your 401k contribution from $150 to $600 or so. It'll start to add up a little faster.

As far as the actual investing, just stick with a target fund and dollar cost average for now. If you want to get into stocks, start watching them for a couple years first.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Avoid stocks


Why avoid stocks? If he's young, wouldn't stocks be better for retirement, at this point?

Maybe I'm biased (and an idiot ), but my retirement fund is about 99% stocks at this point.

ETA: Op, do you have any company match for your 401k? If so, I would contribute up to that match before going the IRA route.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:38 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20443 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:21 am to
I'm assuming what he meant by avoid stocks is to avoid single stocks.

OP, the best thing is to open a Roth IRA through Vanguard, Schwab, or a couple other companies. They are very low cost, you can purchase Mutual Funds or ETFs for free or very cheap.

There's nothing wrong with buying a targeted date fund, they are just boring IMO. I'd buy a broad market mutual fund or ETF first and then go from there.
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2083 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:36 pm to
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bayoubengals88


Very solid advice.

As was mentioned later on, see if your employer has 401k matching.

I would invest in this order:

1) 401k up to the maximum your employer will match
2) max out Roth IRA
3) max out 401k

Before trying to pick individual stocks, I'd recommend reading A Random Walk Down Wallstreet.

Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9356 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:10 pm to
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3) Buy $1,000 worth of a Target Retirement mutual fund based on your retirement date plus 10 years.


What's the reason for adding the 10 years?
Posted by zacata88
Member since Mar 2014
1682 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:11 pm to
Some good advice in this thread, thanks y'all. My employer matches 1%, and then half of the next few percent. I've never been able to figure out if this setup is worth maxing out.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2083 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Some good advice in this thread, thanks y'all. My employer matches 1%, and then half of the next few percent. I've never been able to figure out if this setup is worth maxing out.


Assuming you are fully vested, a resounding (and really even if you are not) YES! Do 1% and also the "few percent" as well. That's free money.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:43 pm to
Them matching half of a percent is a 50% return on your money.
Posted by stonerolledaway
the villages
Member since Jul 2011
982 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:57 am to
Good starting and possibly ending point too
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 9:58 am
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:44 am to
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What's the reason for adding the 10 years?


From what I've read adding 10 years gets you into some more aggressive growth type funds.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10018 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:33 pm to
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saving 3 years for a down payment on a house


What's the advice for this?
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:30 pm to
invest in my company
Posted by SuperSoakher
Member since Jun 2012
4585 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 6:04 pm to
3x ETFs or gtfo.

But seriously, now that you have money, why don't you buy a finance text book from amazon and read at your own pace. There's tons of other reading material from successful investors, with tons of it aimed at beginners. It seems like you're looking for a financial advisor to just tell you what to do but it would be best to learn on your own so you can share ideas.

Investipedia is a great place to start by learning definitions and reading articles to basic questions you may have. The goal is to be financially literate and all of this is stuff you can do on your lunch hour and on your free time.

Browsing this board is also good for questions and reading daily threads. Case in point, click the stickied thread at the top and start reading those threads. The very first link is "new to investing".
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 6:07 pm
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