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re: "TEAM BUNT" is now on notice!!

Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Stephenson


Still coaches at Wichita State after all these years.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:24 am to
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I intend to meltdown during CWS over all sorts of little inconsequential things, and nobody better call me inconsistent!!



I see. Not sure that distinguishes you from 95% of the Rantards on this board....
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:25 am to
You're better than this.

At least I thought you were.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:26 am to
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:28 am to
:gf:
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:30 am to
"Never tell anyone outside the Family what you are thinking again."

:|
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:35 am to




And he other thing is, the sacrifice bunt also has to be executed.

Put me on the non team bunt side.
This post was edited on 5/25/13 at 9:36 am
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:40 am to
Yep. Not only is your "run expectancy" higher with a man on 1st and 0 outs than with a man on 2nd and 1 out, but your percentage chance of scoring at least 1 run is also higher.

So it's a lose-lose in most situations, unless you have a sub-.100 NL pitcher up to bat or something.

EDIT: I'm guessing you got those charts from this article.

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This is also the case when a runner is sacrificed from 1st base to 2nd to avoid the double play. With a runner on 1st and 0 outs a team is expected to score .941 runs while a team with a runner on 2nd and 1 out is expected to score only .721 runs. These differences are even larger (23% decreased run expectancy), and again, this is real.


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Another common situation is the bunt with nobody out and a man on 1B. If the bunt is successful, the odds of scoring just one run move from 44.1% to 41.8%, a decrease of 2.3%.


And all that is assuming that sac bunts go 100% perfectly. I'm all for quasi-sac bunts where you try to sneak in a hit on a lazy third baseman, but come on. Sac bunts should be very rare unless you are trying to advance the go-ahead run in the bottom of the last inning.
This post was edited on 5/25/13 at 9:45 am
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:43 am to
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MrWiseGuy

Look bro, don't bring numbers, percentages and stats into this......a tradition of stupid decisions and doing what we were taught when we were young makes a whole lot more sense.
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:44 am to
bunting never worked on RBI baseball on the nintendo. therefore, I am on team No Bunt
This post was edited on 5/25/13 at 9:45 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:45 am to
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if Stevenson or Laird had been up, he would have bunted. 100% guaranteed.


He said he will never do it. And I've seen him coach like this before with much lesser hitters up.
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22966 posts
Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:51 am to
Early in the game, I'm for no bunt. In the 9th, you probably bunt unless Katz or someone of the like is up. Situations are all different.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77378 posts
Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:54 am to
He let Laird hit away a few weeks ago in the 8th or 9th down 1
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:57 am to
It's not just the bunt situation. It's the fact raph is a dp machine and everyone knew that's what was going to happen
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77378 posts
Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:59 am to
Everyone thought it could happen, no one knew it would happen
Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 10:00 am to
I think the statistics showing the disadvantages of bunting are great. I'm not a proponent of giving away outs.

However..the stats encompass all teams...lets say in the AL or NL or whatever. I think the stats should be tallied for individual teams...then correlate the numbers with things like BA, slugging, OBP etc. I think those numbers might reveal that teams with few sluggers, lower BA and OBP should bunt more to help manufacture runs.

Of course LSU does not fall in that category. This team should rarely bunt. I'd much rather hit and run with our team.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13012 posts
Posted on 5/25/13 at 10:01 am to
Yes I know that gap hits were rare in this game.
There is no reason we shouldn't have shelled this freshman relief pitcher though.

We've hit much better off of much better pitching.

I'd lean more towards team bunt in the game we played against Stanek.
But yesterday, we should have hit Oxycotton.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45050 posts
Posted on 5/25/13 at 10:03 am to
people were calling it in the game thread. shite he had already done it twice that game. It's just the type of hitter he is, grounders and line drives.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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77378 posts
Posted on 5/25/13 at 10:03 am to
They have the numbers broken up by AL and NL

LINK
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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77378 posts
Posted on 5/25/13 at 10:04 am to
You still have to give him the chance to hit, he's one of your best hitters
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