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re: SEC Refs protecting top ranked teams

Posted on 10/26/09 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/26/09 at 2:45 pm to
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ideally what I would have like to have seen is Tennessee get the ball and run it in all while big Terrance was galloping helmetless to the sidelines.


same here. i was yelling at the tv for the tenn players to go get the ball. but no one looked at it. i guess they thought it went the other way or something but i was like "PICK IT UP PICK IT UP".

didn't work though. the people on the other side of the screen never listen.
This post was edited on 10/26/09 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80324 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 2:48 pm to
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I'm really starting to believe this theory. The SEC does stand to lose a lot of money if Bama and Florida had lost.


This wouldn't be the first time something like this happened. In the 2007 Pitt upset of West Virginia that put LSU in the title game, Big East officials tried their damndest to give the game to the Mountaineers.
Posted by PJ250R
The Rock
Member since Sep 2006
2082 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 2:54 pm to
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This wouldn't be the first time something like this happened. In the 2007 Pitt upset of West Virginia that put LSU in the title game, Big East officials tried their damndest to give the game to the Mountaineers.

I remember that. I can't remember any specific examples on the top of my head, but I do remember thinking that the game was so biased it was about as obvious as cankles.

Here is my concern though. I know that huge amounts of money ride on each game. Do you really think that some not all refs can be behind keeping lines... or do you think it is just a natural human bias we have in expectation that the favorite should win? I am no conspiracist, but sometimes I can't help but to follow the money.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 3:24 pm to
2500 years ago Plato stated that there are only two "elements"...contemplation and politics. But I'm sure that maybe only 1% on THIS board would have a clue what he meant by this...let's see, Plato, wasn't he some comic strip character or something? All institutions, emphasis on the ALL, have and will always have their elements of corruption. The mob and the SEC will always have their finger in the pie. Whereever there is big and easy money, the mob will be. The SEC as well has it's political/financial priorities.
Posted by Utah Tiger
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
1128 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 3:31 pm to
It is very simple! MONEY! SEC is trying it's best to insure that maybe two SEC teams get to play in the national championship game. If LSU beats bama then we start getting the calls. Money makes the world go round it looks like. I think it is an extra 15 million or more of revenue to the SEC.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
5373 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 3:35 pm to
Kiffin has a point, Dwayne Rudd did the helmet thing in 2001 after a sack that woulda ended the game, the ball came lose and the play continued for a bit so he got a penalty and K.C. got to kick a FG and win...

Im sure some remember that play...

F the SEC Offices
Posted by Budroar
tucson
Member since Sep 2009
530 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 3:58 pm to
Whew your just way over my head man.............U mind bender!!!!!
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36804 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:08 pm to
Someone told me (yes, I missed it I guess) that the SEC crew who called the ARKY/Florida game was the same crew that called the LSU/UGA game and they got suspended ... did the SEC admit that the officials handed the Gators the game? That's what I heard ... been busy and not much time to read here ...

YEP ... found my own answer
This post was edited on 10/26/09 at 4:25 pm
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:12 pm to
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Of course, when you blow a fake punt on your own 20, you're not going to get much sympathy from the league office.



How is blowing a defensive return for TD > blowing a fake punt? Both are football.
Posted by tigercavor
Member since Sep 2006
1816 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:13 pm to
I'm afraid that No. 1 v No. 2 (Florida and Bama) would be the highest rated conference championship is history, and that fact is very well understood by the league.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17500 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:22 pm to
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SEC officiating is becoming a joke across the country.


True, and this is a MAJOR problem and has happend WAY too many times year and at crucial moments.
It's stuff like this that has the potential to diminish the conference's reputation that has really been built up the last few years due to on the field success.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17500 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:24 pm to
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This wouldn't be the first time something like this happened. In the 2007 Pitt upset of West Virginia that put LSU in the title game, Big East officials tried their damndest to give the game to the Mountaineers.


That's a good point, but what has gone on in the SEC this year seems to really stink and I never remember anything like it. The LSU/UGA penalties were just bad and stupid, but the Florida and Bama stuff are ridiculous and egregious.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36804 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:26 pm to
See the link I posted above ... that UGA/LSU crew was the same as the Arky/Florida crew and they're gone until at least 11/14 ...

THEY won't have the Bama/LSU game for sure.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80324 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:35 pm to
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the Florida and Bama stuff are ridiculous and egregious.


One name bears out your contention: Riley Cooper.

I know officials are pretty much loath to call offensive PI unless it's absolutely blatant (almost the same way they're reluctant to call a safety unless the ball carrier is nailed 5 yds deep in the end zone), but Riley Cooper has taken advantage of this reluctance to another level. The next time I see that fricker run a pass route without pushing off will be the first.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57558 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:41 pm to
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I sure hope the crew that called LSU-Aub 2006 have been fazed out the SEC's current working ref rotation..


I believe that was the same crew that was recently suspended...at least that's what I heard on "The Fastest Hour."
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57558 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:48 pm to
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i know technically the call should have been made. but god that would be ridiculous to make that call.


If the player violated the rules of the game, he should have been penalized. End of story. The offending player, not the officials, would be the sole person to blame had that flag been thrown and UT made the subsequent field goal.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:51 pm to
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If the player violated the rules of the game, he should have been penalized. End of story. The offending player, not the officials, would be the sole person to blame had that flag been thrown and UT made the subsequent field goal.


i know. and that is why i said i am not trying to win this argument.

its just my opinion that if they had given them another shot because of that it was have been really stupid.
This post was edited on 10/26/09 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57558 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:54 pm to
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ideally what I would have like to have seen is Tennessee get the ball and run it in all while big Terrance was galloping helmetless to the sidelines.


I saw a similar play from a HS game last week on YouTube. Team A blocked Team B's FG as time expired. Team A jubilantly runs to the side lines celebrating their apparent victory. One kid on Team B, realizing that the ball never crossed the LOS, calmly picks it up and runs for the winning TD.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57558 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 4:55 pm to
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its just my opinion that if they had given them another shot because of that it was have been really stupid.


What was stupid was for the Bama player to remove his helmet and run off the field with a live ball rolling around.
Posted by PJ250R
The Rock
Member since Sep 2006
2082 posts
Posted on 10/26/09 at 5:23 pm to
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What was stupid was for the Bama player to remove his helmet and run off the field with a live ball rolling around.

Very.. but unfortunately referees take it amongst themselves to determine if the result of the penalty matches what could be the outcome of the game. Did Terrance really affect that play throwing his helmet off? I don't think, but someone could have EASILY gotten hurt during that live ball. What to do then? Find that flag you tucked earlier? B/c NOW the ref thinks the flag fits that situation...Sadly the result may not match what we think should be the penalty, but rules are there for a reason.. integrity and sportsmanship. I think both were breached with the no call of TC. I wonder if the tables were turned and Tenn would have blocked and thrown helmets? I think we know the answer.
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