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re: Props to Coach Miles. Really.

Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by Tyrael
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:32 pm to
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JJ laughs at Les Miles and his discipline.



You're not talking about the 'bar fight' are you?
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:32 pm to
If the violation was multiple failed drug tests he violated University policy, if that's true Les had very little wiggle room.

Minimum as per LSU policy is one year suspension from athletic competition

It's a good and fair policy but Les' hands were tied if it was drug tests
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:32 pm to
No, no f*cking "props" to Coach Miles. You know what would have merited props? Instilling discipline in your team so that you didn't have to dismiss your best f*cking player. That would have been the optimal outcome.

Lauding Miles is like lauding a father who turns his teenage son in for some crime. Yeah, it's the right thing to do given the terrible circumstances. But it would have been exponentially better had the father done a better job rearing the child so that he didn't commit a crime in the first fricking instance. That's what a good parent does.

And a good coach instills discipline in his team, especially when he is already on notice that one of his stars has a penchant for this type of behaviour.
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 12:34 pm
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
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64133 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:33 pm to
Les Miles don't give a shite
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29127 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

If the violation was multiple failed drug tests he violated University policy, if that's true Les had very little wiggle room.


yep.

you guys act like les stepped up with this.

Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3333 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:34 pm to
Would LSU have been violating NCAA rules had it allowed TM to stay?

Anyone?
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:34 pm to
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No, no f*cking "props" to Coach Miles. You know what would have merited props? Instilling discipline in your team so that you didn't have to dismiss your best f*cking player. That would have been the optimal outcome.


except Les isn't someone's Dad. He's just a coach.


quote:

Lauding Miles is like lauding a father who turns his teenage son in for some crime. Yeah, it's the right thing to do given the terrible circumstances. But it would have been exponentially better had the father done a better job rearing the child so that he didn't commit a crime in the first fricking instance. That's what a good parent does.


Except it's the same thing as if that father had no contact with that teenage son until after they turned 18. And also, he doesn't live with that son. And also, he has 100 other kids. And can have court mandated limited contact with that son throughout the year.

yep. exactly like that.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:36 pm to
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No, no f*cking "props" to Coach Miles. You know what would have merited props? Instilling discipline in your team so that you didn't have to dismiss your best f*cking player. That would have been the optimal outcome.

Lauding Miles is like lauding a father who turns his teenage son in for some crime. Yeah, it's the right thing to do given the terrible circumstances. But it would have been exponentially better had the father done a better job rearing the child so that he didn't commit a crime in the first fricking instance. That's what a good parent does.

And a good coach instills discipline in his team, especially when he is already on notice that one of his stars has a penchant for this type of behaviour.


whole lot of dumb in this post right here

You can lead a horse to water..
Posted by VC
Canton
Member since May 2012
2506 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:36 pm to
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I'm gonna stop short of praising Miles on this one right now. This was a school and team rule he broke, so if he was kicked out of school, it really had nothing to do with Miles.



I'm not sure he had a choice since it was NCAA rules also.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
93697 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:36 pm to
Honey Badger probably should have cared
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27472 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Would LSU have been violating NCAA rules had it allowed TM to stay?

Anyone?

NCAA rules are you can't smoke synthetic weed, but they don't test for it yet. So, we could have stopped testing for synthetic if that's what it was.
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
Member since Jul 2008
2302 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:37 pm to
Amen to that, props to coach. This is not thug U
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

national profile wise.
not effect on the field.


I don't consider national profile. If we win we'll attract OOS recruits regardless of ESPN's perception of us. Beyond that, not sure why it matters.

Also not sure this will have much of an effect on the field.
Minus TM7's turnovers + Minus TM7's attitude
Might break even on the deal if the team is as deep as people seem to think it is.

Posted by VC
Canton
Member since May 2012
2506 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

whole lot of dumb in this post right here

You can lead a horse to water..



+1000000

what an idiot poster...seriously.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53732 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:38 pm to
If anyone at LSU, within or outside of the football program discovered a rule was broken by TM and thus followed protocol which led to TM's dismissal from school and the team, that my friends is the definition of Institutional Control.

Posted by Tyrael
Member since Jun 2012
1171 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:39 pm to
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Also not sure this will have much of an effect on the field.
Minus TM7's turnovers + Minus TM7's attitude
Might break even on the deal if the team is as deep as people seem to think it is.


His attitude on the field was good. It was his discipline off the team (that frankly isn't a big deal to me) that got him in trouble.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:40 pm to
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Except it's the same thing as if that father had no contact with that teenage son until after they turned 18. And also, he doesn't live with that son. And also, he has 100 other kids. And can have court mandated limited contact with that son throughout the year.

yep. exactly like that.


Yeah, you're right, you dunderheaded apologist dipsh*t. It isn't the coach's job to instill discpline in the team, right? That's not Miles job, correct? It wasn't Miles' responsibility to step in an take every step possible to ensure that his best defensive player remained on the field, true?

And in the last twelve months:

(1) Shady's incident;

(2) Shepard suspended by NCAA;

(3) TM/Ware suspended for drug use;

(4) TM dismissed.

And none of that is Miles' responsibility as head coach, eithr, right? It's all just a product of bad luck and those darn pesky, capricious kids, right? Oh gee, just tough luck.

I swear to God, I wonder how some of our so called fanbase can even find the internet.
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 12:42 pm
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

His attitude on the field was good.


eh

Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28611 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Yeah, you're right, you dunderheaded apologist dipsh*t. It isn't the coach's job to instill discpline in the team, right? That's not Miles job, correct? It wasn't Miles' responsibility to step in an take every step possible to ensure that his best defensive player remained on the field, true?

And in the last twelve months:

(1) Shady's incident;

(2) Shepard suspended by NCAA;

(3) TM/Ware suspended for drug use;

(4) TM dismissed.

And none of that is Miles' responsibility as head coach, eithr, right? It's all just a product of bad luck and those darn pesky, capricious kids, right? Oh gee, just tough luck.

I swear to God, I wonder how some of our so called fanbase can even find the internet.


So what do you propose Miles could have done differently?
Posted by VC
Canton
Member since May 2012
2506 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:42 pm to
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The312


dude....i hope you are typing all this bs because you are just a young dumb kid....obviously you aren't an adult. This is insane, you are an idiot, and probably should be banned for your ignorance.
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