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re: Props to Coach Miles. Really.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:52 pm to Rohan2Reed
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:52 pm to Rohan2Reed
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No, no f*cking "props" to Coach Miles. You know what would have merited props? Instilling discipline in your team so that you didn't have to dismiss your best f*cking player. That would have been the optimal outcome.
Lauding Miles is like lauding a father who turns his teenage son in for some crime. Yeah, it's the right thing to do given the terrible circumstances. But it would have been exponentially better had the father done a better job rearing the child so that he didn't commit a crime in the first fricking instance. That's what a good parent does.
And a good coach instills discipline in his team, especially when he is already on notice that one of his stars has a penchant for this type of behaviour.
This is what you call embarassingly selfish attitude exemplified. This guy dont care for the team, he cares only that the team wins at any cost. How dare does Miles deprive this guy from feeling that gratification.
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 12:56 pm
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:53 pm to The Mick
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He will still be in the NFL no doubt
Who can he cover in the NFL?
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:53 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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I am really sad that I won't get to watch one of the most exciting players in LSU history, and really sad that TM7 made a decision(s) that cost him a chance at the NFL this season and affected our national title chase.
but i'm proud that Les Miles has the stones to kick him off the team, if he was really breaking team rules.
after seeing what's happened with coaches all over the country recently, including Penn St. It makes me think the LSU program is in good hands.
LSU's defense was fine without Mathieu last year, and no doubt, there is an athletic cornerback ready to play the wildcard role in the defense.
As for TM7 I hope he turns it around. He was one of my favorite players to watch all time, and is one of the most instinctive footballers i've ever seen.
Sad day.
Truth.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:54 pm to The312
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Lauding Miles is like lauding a father
There's your problem right there. Holding a coach to the same standard as a father is unrealistic. What father has 85+ kids to look after? What father is limited by rules to spend only X hours a week with his kids? A coach can't watch every player every minute and control their behavior. He can set rules, he can try to impress upon them the importance of following the rules, he can punish them for violating the rules, but he can't keep them from breaking them if they're just determined to do so.
Does this shed some light on why Mathieu wasn't at SEC Media Days? Maybe Miles already knew something was coming down the pike and left Mathieu at home for that reason, or maybe Mathieu was already in the doghouse for other actions and this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
In any event, it's sad that Mathieu wasn't able to comply with the rules. He could have been a legend of LSU football and maybe had a career in the NFL. His measurables would have limited his potential in the NFL (as they did his scholarship offers coming out of high school), but he might have been able to overcome that with his ability to make big plays. No way an NFL team takes a chance on him now if he's a discipline risk as well.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:55 pm to Bamboozles
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This is what you embarassingly selfish attitude exemplified. He dont care for the team, he cares only that the team wins at any cost. How dare does Miles deprive this guy from feeling that gratification
If I could decipher this incomprehensible drivel, I would respond.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:55 pm to Freauxzen
i wish we knew what it was. If it was synthetic marijuana i'm gonna be pissed at LSU and Miles. Look at this from an article last year:
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Mary Wilfert, NCAA associate director of health and safety, said the NCAA in August added synthetic cannabinoids to its banned class of street drugs, which also includes marijuana, THC (tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive substance found in marijuana) and heroin.
Wilfert said the NCAA isn't testing for synthetic cannabinoids because its drug labs aren't yet equipped to test for them. Wilfert said the NCAA held an educational forum about the dangers of synthetic cannabinoids for its member schools in January during the NCAA convention in San Antonio. She said the NCAA also has educated schools about the drugs through newsletters.
"It's caught our attention and we're addressing it," Wilfert said. "In the near future, after we get information back from our labs, we'll make a determination as to whether we'll start testing for it."
Wilfert said that if a student-athlete tests positive for an NCAA-banned substance in a school-administered drug test, the student-athlete is not subject to NCAA punishment.
"Schools can determine whether they test for something," Wilfert said. "It's independent of NCAA testing. NCAA testing does not test for [synthetic cannabinoids]. I know some schools are testing for it. What the penalties are is up to the school."
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:56 pm to The312
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No, no f*cking "props" to Coach Miles. You know what would have merited props? Instilling discipline in your team so that you didn't have to dismiss your best f*cking player. That would have been the optimal outcome.
Lauding Miles is like lauding a father who turns his teenage son in for some crime. Yeah, it's the right thing to do given the terrible circumstances. But it would have been exponentially better had the father done a better job rearing the child so that he didn't commit a crime in the first fricking instance. That's what a good parent does.
And a good coach instills discipline in his team, especially when he is already on notice that one of his stars has a penchant for this type of behaviour.
Holy shite
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:57 pm to The312
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The312
What a pussy
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:57 pm to hashtag
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Why don't you go ahead and list the issues that we've had since Miles has become the coach. I'll wait, because it might take you awhile.
My guess is there are numerous issues that are handled in-house and of which we know nothing. For those that are public, maybe as many as a half-dozen come to mind (RP, Matt Allen, LB from MS, TM7, Shadys, Ware/Simon/TM7).
Are we (LSU) that much out-of-family from other programs? Probably not.
BTW, the entire '08 class graduated and our football player grad rate is second only to Vandy in the SEC.
If a program thinks they're gonna stop this from happening I think they're in for a rude awakening. It's more important that a program responds wisely (and we're doing that).
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:58 pm to BilJ
Only delusional LSU fans would react to the dismissal of our best defensive player - and the fourth off the field discplinary issue in the last twelve months - with the inane conclusion that our coaches should be praised for this most recent development. It defies explanation or logic.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:59 pm to AlwysATgr
This situation sucks for a lot of reasons, and because people who hate the fact that Les Miles is our football coach will find this as an opportunity to bash.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:00 pm to The312
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If I could decipher this incomprehensible drivel, I would respond.
Let me break it down Barney style for you since that seems to be the best reference point you may have - "It is better for you to accept what is right rather than to around blaming the person who did the right thing".
End of the show, sing your Barney tune now, just replace "you" with "TM7" in that song.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:00 pm to BeeFense5
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BeeFense5
What a ****.
(I suppose we can keep up this nonsense.)
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:00 pm to hashtag
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If it was synthetic marijuana i'm gonna be pissed at LSU and Miles
That's just stupid. He broke a team and school rule, he should be gone. Saying we shouldn't have cut him because we didn't have to, is Bama like.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:00 pm to Rocket
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This situation sucks for a lot of reasons, and because people who hate the fact that Les Miles is our football coach will find this as an opportunity to bash.
Definitely. I don't think I have ever seen as much of a bleeding vagina as that 312 guy though. What a drama queen.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:02 pm to Sonny Koufax
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That's just stupid. He broke a team and school rule, he should be gone. Saying we shouldn't have cut him because we didn't have to, is Bama like.
We shouldn't be testing for it if the NCAA isn't testing for it. Bottom line.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:03 pm to Bamboozles
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Bamboozles
Did you actually read my initial post? I don't think you did. Because if you had, you would have seen that I nowhere suggested that Miles did the wrong thing by dismissing TM at this point. What I was suggesting - and what obviously escaped your grasp - is that the optimal outcome here would have been to instill discipline in TM and prevent him from repeatedly breaking team rules so that we never reached this impasse in the first place. That would have deserved actual praise.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:04 pm to Chad504boy
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I guess but nobody wins in the end. Program still takes a blow. Coach takes a blow. Player takes a blow.
i'm sorry you view it this way. the program will get better because the remaining players and future players will know they have rules to follow and the concept of college football at lsu is stronger. the player wins, if he's smart, because he knows whatever organization he's in in the future has rules you have to abide by in order to prosper in that organization. the coach doesn't win; i agree with you there. BUT he is paid to run the program and handsomely at that.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:05 pm to hashtag
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We shouldn't be testing for it if the NCAA isn't testing for it. Bottom line
yes, because doing the bare minimum is a tried and true policy for success.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:06 pm to BeeFense5
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Definitely. I don't think I have ever seen as much of a bleeding vagina as that 312 guy though. What a drama queen.
And I don't think ever witnessed as much of a sycophantic distended anus as you, sir. I know it pains you to admit that perhaps - just fricking perhaps - the head coach bears some responsibility for four discplinary issues in the span of twelve months and that he certainly shouldn't be PRAISED for having to dismiss his best defensive player for repeated rules violations.
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 1:08 pm
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