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re: Mikie Mahtook

Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:13 am to
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:13 am to
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I'm not sure if some of you really understand baseball and a player's phycie.





We concede to you. Tell us what we need to know.
Posted by PacoDeTaco
BR
Member since Feb 2007
2072 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:15 am to
Bat speed has everything to do with hitting an outside fastball if the player is having trouble. One of the toughest things to do when your having trouble is to wait on a located outside fastball when you have flaws with your swing at the time. Dropping his hands and weight transfer have everything to do with his bat speed, if one of those is lacking he will be trying to pull that outside pitch like he's doing.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22348 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:17 am to
quote:

Bat speed has everything to do with hitting an outside fastball if the player is having trouble. One of the toughest things to do when your having trouble is to wait on a located outside fastball when you have flaws with your swing at the time. Dropping his hands and weight transfer have everything to do with his bat speed, if one of those is lacking he will be trying to pull that outside pitch like he's doing.





Why aren't you LSU's batting coach?
Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8123 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:17 am to
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Either way, Dean is coming out of his slump eventually, and when he does it will be fun to watch.


I think you're right...he's proven he's a good hitter. He's not playing because of his defense..that's for sure.

But just think...the difference between Dean being a .355 hitter last year and a .270 hitter was only 10 hits. If he gets 10 less hits the ENTIRE season, he's a .270 hitter. That's how funny baseball is..

Now that also means he can raise his average fairly quickly if he gets going soon. We're only a little over 1/3 of the way thru the season if you include games all the way thru the CWS...which i am..

I think Dean taking what's given to him and hitting to all parts of the field will be a key in this team possibly winning a NC.

This post was edited on 3/26/09 at 12:19 am
Posted by PacoDeTaco
BR
Member since Feb 2007
2072 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:21 am to
I'm no hitting coach man, playing my entire life and watching players going through slumps just helps me identify a few key flaws in some players swings. It has always helped me improve myself. My dad made me watch Pete Rose tapes from the age of 12. Blake Dean has a great swing, he is doing a lot of things different right now which are hurting him. He needs to just be himself and we will see the Blake Dean of last year and more.
This post was edited on 3/26/09 at 12:24 am
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22348 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:27 am to
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I'm no hitting coach man, playing my entire life and watching players going through slumps just helps me identify a few key flaws in some players swings. It has always helped me improve myself. My dad made me watch Pete Rose tapes from the age of 12




I was just trying to make a point........everyone on here knows the problems with the team (football, basketball, baseball) and it gets old. None of you know more than the coaches do and if you did, you wouldn't be a greater at Walmart.
This post was edited on 3/26/09 at 12:28 am
Posted by PacoDeTaco
BR
Member since Feb 2007
2072 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:29 am to
I agree, i'm not trying to undermind the coaches because they are hired to coach and know what they are doing. This was for the sake of discussion, that's all.
Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8123 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:31 am to
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My dad made me watch Pete Rose tapes from the age of 12


Aah...Pete Rose. I grew up watching the Big Red Machine and was a Cincy fan my whole life until i moved to Arlington Texas and became a Rangers fan. And now im an Astros fan. What a shame he had to do the gambling thing...he was simply the greatest Hitter I ever saw. Ya..Ted Williams was probably the best, but I never saw him play live..so Im biased. Ill never forget Pete making a run at the consecutive games with a hit record. And I dont think anyone will break Dimaggio's 56 game streak during my lifetime...but who knows?

Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22348 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:37 am to
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I agree, i'm not trying to undermind the coaches because they are hired to coach and know what they are doing. This was for the sake of discussion, that's all.



Sorry, it wasn't necessarily directed towards you but we have a lot of posters on here that think they know better than the coaching staffs.
Posted by swampdonkey
Member since Nov 2006
403 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:37 am to
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Bat speed has everything to do with hitting an outside fastball if the player is having trouble. One of the toughest things to do when your having trouble is to wait on a located outside fastball when you have flaws with your swing at the time. Dropping his hands and weight transfer have everything to do with his bat speed, if one of those is lacking he will be trying to pull that outside pitch like he's doing.


Again, bat speed has nothing to do with a slump. Bat speed is the same given a 'good' swing at ANY pitch. Like you said, the hardest thing is to 'wait' on a pitch, indicating that seeing the ball out of the pitcher's hand is an issue, or at the very least timing. Dropping hands will definitely lead to pop ups, and weight transfer can surely lead to a lower (or higher?) average. Just saying that 'bat speed' is about as little league as you can get.
Posted by PacoDeTaco
BR
Member since Feb 2007
2072 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:37 am to
I would love to see someone to hit safely in 50. The couple of weeks after would be one of the greatest weeks in sports history I think. Dustin Pedrioa has the best shot of any current player I think, that guy doesn't have many holes in his swing. Ted Williams was great, smaller bat, ton of bat speed, that was his thing. Willams changed hitting, no doubt about it.
Posted by PacoDeTaco
BR
Member since Feb 2007
2072 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:42 am to
Ok, I guess what I mean by bat speed is the time it takes for the hands to move through the zone, not actually the speed of the bat. My fault for not being clear. Would you agree that hand path (short and compact) is of utmost importance when hitting the outside pitch?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278849 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:45 am to
PacoDeEmanski
Posted by Skooter
Member since Jun 2008
2253 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 1:30 am to
quote:

Leon Landry is a below average CF


Quite possibly, the most stupid fricking thing I've ever seen posted
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77788 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 8:51 am to
Landry seems to be overvalued by some, and undervalued by others, interesting. I think he's okay, he definitely isn't consistent at the plate, which is his biggest problem.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87535 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 10:24 am to
LL is highly valued as an athlete (with sky high potential) playing baseball, the only thing lacking is experience and that takes time. I expect LL to really take off after getting into the minors where all he has to do is play baseball and not worry about anything else
Posted by gliterein
Member since Aug 2008
201 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 11:15 am to
good call on pedroia.

ted williams was noted for his exceptional vision; he was off of the charts when tested as a marine fighter pilot.

at spring training several years ago, the red sox team ophthamologist was doing screenings of every player in the organization. he said that pedroia has the best vision of anyone that he had ever tested. he must be part owl or something.
Posted by lsumma09
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
1092 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 11:22 am to
quote:

ut just think...the difference between Dean being a .355 hitter last year and a .270 hitter was only 10 hits. If he gets 10 less hits the ENTIRE season, he's a .270 hitter. That's how funny baseball is..


Blake Dean 2008 - 95 for 269 = .353
95-10 = 85, 85 for 269 = .316

To hit .270 he would have had 73 hits, 22 less than he did
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 11:58 am to
he ran a 4.44 as a jr in high school at the all american combine his sr year he was timed at a 4.37 and 4.40. and the all american combine is laser timed.
Posted by diablo blanco
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
1083 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 4:10 pm to
Do you know where Mahtook's mother is from? I heard a rumor I went to school with her.
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