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re: Mikie Mahtook

Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:23 pm to
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So, just for the record, most of you guys believe Dean isn't that great of a hitter, and he prob won't touch .300 this year?


I think the kid better stop believing he can hit a HR every AB and start taking what's given to him. If not, then no..he wont touch .300.


Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
78085 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:25 pm to
For the record, I think ya'll are usually pretty good posters, but just wrong on this topic, I don't think ya'll remember Dean's freshmen year well enough. And I think its pretty disrespectful to give his success last season to Clark.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72526 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:26 pm to
well i didnt say that

i will say that i dont think he's as awesome as people were making him out to be at the end of last year
Posted by PacoDeTaco
BR
Member since Feb 2007
2072 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:27 pm to
How do you know that's his approach? To me it looks like he isn't staying on the ball, trying to pull the ball too much if you will. This creates popups and weak ground balls, a problem with his mechanics that can be fixed. I'm not sure if some of you really understand baseball and a player's phycie.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72526 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:30 pm to
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great for a freshman playing on a shitty team


idk, kentrail davis for tennessee and hunter morris for auburn put up better numbers as freshmen last year on teams just as bad
This post was edited on 3/25/09 at 11:32 pm
Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8123 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

For the record, I think ya'll are usually pretty good posters, but just wrong on this topic, I don't think ya'll remember Dean's freshmen year well enough. And I think its pretty disrespectful to give his success last season to Clark.


I remember it well...I was one of the handful of posters on all of the baseball game threads. His numbers look pretty good in relation to the rest of the team..true. He had a decent year...hitting over 310 i believe. But He has very little speed..and really is not a positive on defense. This whole thing got started because LE was comparing Dean to LL...and saying Deans track record gives him a leg up. I just dont see it that way. I like Dean, but I thought he got a lot of help last year...cause..well...I saw the pitches he got.

We can just disagree. Doesnt matter to me. I hope Dean hits 500 the rest of the way. I would tell Dean to try and hit a grounder every AB until he gets it out of his head that he doesnt need to hit a HR.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279237 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:35 pm to
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..and saying Deans track record gives him a leg up. I just dont see it that way. I like Dean, but I thought he got a lot of help last year...cause..well...I saw the pitches he got.


dude...you dont shite out .355/20HR/73RBI
Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8123 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:36 pm to
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I'm not sure if some of you really understand baseball and a player's phycie.


Oh stop with the "some of you dont understand" crap. I played baseball for at least 15 years and have followed it for another 20 or so years. He's trying to pull it because thats the closest and easiest way to get a HR. But he's doing it with an uppercut swing. It's really messed up right now. Most players who try to pull a ball will come over the ball too much and hit a chopper...not a pop up. Maybe you dont know much about the game.

Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8123 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

dude...you dont shite out .355/20HR/73RBI


You have to be kidding. How long have you followed baseball? How long have you seen players surge or fade depending on where they were in the lineup? Not to mention the confidence gained with some success.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279237 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:42 pm to
dude....
Posted by PacoDeTaco
BR
Member since Feb 2007
2072 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:43 pm to
not true, I have seen multiple players that hit infield popups because they are pulling off the ball. It depends on the hand path, and weight transfer to the front leg. I just have a big problem when people make a vague statement like "trying to hit homeruns". What the hell does that mean??? Why can't a player TRY to hit homeruns by let the ball travel a little? Just because the player is jumping at the ball doesn't mean they are "trying" to hit homeruns.
Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8123 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:43 pm to
Sweet...

Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8123 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

Why can't a player TRY to hit homeruns by let the ball travel a little?


You should never try to hit a HR.

Posted by toddg
Earth
Member since Feb 2007
418 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:47 pm to
I don't think sitting Dean for a few games is such a horrible thing. Maybe he can relax mentally and if we starting hitting the ball as a team it will allow him to relax. Ochinko started his freshman season and got benched last year in favor of Gibbs that hasn't worked out too bad. I love having the problem of too much depth.
Posted by PacoDeTaco
BR
Member since Feb 2007
2072 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:49 pm to
What I mean is the player can let the ball travel and still be trying too hard to hit a HR. Just because they are trying to pull outside pitches doesn't mean they are trying to hit HR. Maybe he's having problems with his bat speed and can't let the outside fastball travel.
Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8123 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

It depends on the hand path, and weight transfer to the front leg.


I think he may be getting his lower body thru too quickly...true...while not necessarily "trying" to hit the ball out of the park. that would drop the bat out of the correct slot...setting the hands too low. If im making too much of an assumption, then my bad.

Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7913 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:53 pm to
Mahtook taking Leon Landary starting lineup, thats funny, not going to happen. Some of you guys are showing your colors.
Posted by PacoDeTaco
BR
Member since Feb 2007
2072 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:56 pm to
I think you are right on with the hand path, I noticed this too.
Posted by cougar38
LSU FAN
Member since Feb 2008
2085 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 11:59 pm to
mikie really is an incredible athlete he will be very good for lsu in the future and really should see a loooot more pt..

quote:

bdsco337


i know you too im sams friend and im always at your house...

im DM and tigermaniac is RG
Posted by swampdonkey
Member since Nov 2006
403 posts
Posted on 3/26/09 at 12:08 am to
quote:

What I mean is the player can let the ball travel and still be trying too hard to hit a HR. Just because they are trying to pull outside pitches doesn't mean they are trying to hit HR. Maybe he's having problems with his bat speed and can't let the outside fastball travel.


Bat speed has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with this. Does a pro player slow his bat speed down to hit a change? The key is timing and seeing the ball out of the pitcher's hand. Bat speed is negligible.

Either way, Dean is coming out of his slump eventually, and when he does it will be fun to watch.
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