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re: JJ, Miles, and Mett - again
Posted on 4/21/11 at 12:48 am to Doc Fenton
Posted on 4/21/11 at 12:48 am to Doc Fenton
quote:No.
What the frick are you talking about? I asked if you were serious because I legitimately thought that you might be joking, and wanted to know for sure. You said you were, and that's that, except you keep bringing up unrelated shite.
I addressed directly the statements you made. You decided to formulate an argument based upon a point of comparison I presented.
quote:Heaven forbid I try do defend a prediction against your blatant ridicule.
If you want to talk about the QB situation going into Oregon, be my guest, but that doesn't seem to be what you are interested in at all.
What was I thinking?
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Posted on 4/21/11 at 12:51 am to Roaad
GTFO with this poor victim bullshite. You haven't defended it at all since I've posted. You have done nothing but talk about other crap after your witty little "you good?" remark.
Not that I really want to discuss it, but don't pretend like you've been trying and that I've been sidetracking you. That's crap.
Not that I really want to discuss it, but don't pretend like you've been trying and that I've been sidetracking you. That's crap.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 12:53 am to Doc Fenton
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You haven't defended it at all since I've posted
quote:
What part do you fail to understand.
I have made my prediction quite clear, but here it is again:
JJ will win the job going into the OU game, and Mett will overtake him during the season.
Do you need further clarification, or are you good?
quote:I know you are just sniping.
Not that I really want to discuss it
That is why I kept trying to get you to point out your issue with my comment.
You didn't want that. . .because sniping is too fun.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 12:55 am to Doc Fenton
I have to ask:
Are you drunk?
Are you drunk?
Posted on 4/21/11 at 12:56 am to Roaad
Good God, you're pathetic.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 12:57 am to Doc Fenton
quote:Oooooh. . .more ridicule.
Good God, you're pathetic.
Dude. . .there was a time I considered you a person of value on this board. You are a loser in the most basic sense of the word.
Good night, man.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 12:59 am to Roaad
holy shite, what a booger flicking battle over opinions will do to people.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 1:00 am to Santa Clause
quote:
False dichotomy, anyone?
Are you calling for backup from King BBQ?
quote:You can also question why Marcus Randall starting over Jammy Russell, Booty starting over Rohan Davey, Criag Nall not being given a chance, under a dictatorial corch, etc.
A) You can support Les Miles while questioning his managing of the QB situation.
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What has JJ done do show he's clearly the best option? Let's be clear. The bar ain't that high.
In the past 40 years, LSU has been ranked 21 times in both major polls. JJ QB'd teams have been ranked in both years he was the Starting QB.
LSU has been ranked 8 times in the Top 10, in the last 40 years. JJ was the QB for 1 of these 8 Top 10 teams. Miles was the Head Coach of 4 of them.
Yes, Les be real clear on LSU Football history.
This post was edited on 4/21/11 at 1:01 am
Posted on 4/21/11 at 1:03 am to Hitchcock
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JJ QB'd teams have been ranked in both years he was the Starting QB.
I think you can praise LSU's defense for this little feat. Last year was proof that QB's sometimes get too much credit for wins and losses.
This post was edited on 4/21/11 at 1:04 am
Posted on 4/21/11 at 1:20 am to Hitchcock
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Yes, Les be real clear on LSU Football history.
None of that has anything to do with whether ZM or JJ gives LSU a better chance to win.
For example
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JJ QB'd teams have been ranked in both years he was the Starting QB
Don't you think that ranking would have been better without the 92nd ranked passer in the country? Say, if he were top 50?
Posted on 4/21/11 at 1:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
The problem is on this board if you question the openness of the competition you're a conspiracy theorist. JJ will be the starter against Oregon. There is no doubt about this in my mind. Les thinks he gives LSU the best chance to win and thus he will start. Per Hitchcock's post, Les should never be questioned due to prior rankings. See there is the biggest problem. The JJ supporters defend Miles as if he is infallible. Coaches make mistakes.
What Roger and others are saying is Miles has made his decision. JJ will start. PERIOD. There is not an open competition and there will not be one in the fall. Miles has made up his mind and he did so before Mett stepped foot on campus. It's not because Miles would sacrifice the season due to his loyalty to JJ. It's because Miles is wrong in his choice of JJ as his starter. Mike Ditka is a HOFer, but he thought Billy Joe Hobert gave him the best chance to win while in NOLA. Coaches frick up...it happens.
What Roger and others are saying is Miles has made his decision. JJ will start. PERIOD. There is not an open competition and there will not be one in the fall. Miles has made up his mind and he did so before Mett stepped foot on campus. It's not because Miles would sacrifice the season due to his loyalty to JJ. It's because Miles is wrong in his choice of JJ as his starter. Mike Ditka is a HOFer, but he thought Billy Joe Hobert gave him the best chance to win while in NOLA. Coaches frick up...it happens.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 1:41 am to Stewie Griffin
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Don't you think that ranking would have been better without the 92nd ranked passer in the country? Say, if he were top 50?
On a running team? No. The Defense failed to stop CamBow as did all teams, last season. And Mallett, but mostly on 1 fluke play.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 2:18 am to JJ27
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The problem is on this board if you question the openness of the competition you're a conspiracy theorist
"Damn vast Right Wing Military Industrial Complex. They did it...or it was Sammy Davis Jr., he was Jewish 'ya know. - Oliver Stone
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JJ will be the starter against Oregon.
Well now that you have that mystery solved, you, Shaggy & Scooby can hop in the Mystery Machine & go to the next great mystery.
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Per Hitchcock's post, Les should never be questioned due to prior rankings. See there is the biggest problem. The JJ supporters defend Miles as if he is infallible. Coaches make mistakes.
No, Hitchcock didn't say any of this.
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What Roger and others are saying is Miles has made his decision. JJ will start. PERIOD.
Isn't this the same as when you boldly said in sentence #2:
"JJ will be the starter against Oregon. ?
quote:
It's because Miles is wrong in his choice of JJ as his starter
Top 10 & Top 20 ranked teams are bad for LSU? Was there a vote taken by you BBQ boys?
Posted on 4/21/11 at 2:20 am to Hitchcock
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Was there a vote taken by you BBQ boys?
Racist. I RA'd.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 2:31 am to JJ27
quote:
JJ will start. PERIOD. There is not an open competition and there will not be one in the fall. Miles has made up his mind and he did so before Mett stepped foot on campus. It's not because Miles would sacrifice the season due to his loyalty to JJ. It's because Miles is wrong in his choice of JJ as his starter. Mike Ditka is a HOFer, but he thought Billy Joe Hobert gave him the best chance to win while in NOLA. Coaches frick up...it happens.
Exactly, thank you very much.
NOW SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH! YOU SHUT IT RIGHT NOW!
Posted on 4/21/11 at 3:17 am to Hitchcock
My question to Roadd is do you really thing it should be called Jefferson winning the starting qb job if it is given to him?
I mean if JJ plays only with the ones against the two's and threes and Mett only with two's and threes would you call that an open competition? Do you think there is any possibility that Mett could be named starter even with that handicap he seriously outperforms jj.
I think the answer is no. JJ is guaranteed to be named starter for Oregon. It has nothing to do with his or Mett's qb performance which means the best qb more than likely wont be starting otherwise we would have an open competition with the winner being named the starter and the testing being equal for both. I.E. both qbing the ones and threes equally.
I mean if JJ plays only with the ones against the two's and threes and Mett only with two's and threes would you call that an open competition? Do you think there is any possibility that Mett could be named starter even with that handicap he seriously outperforms jj.
I think the answer is no. JJ is guaranteed to be named starter for Oregon. It has nothing to do with his or Mett's qb performance which means the best qb more than likely wont be starting otherwise we would have an open competition with the winner being named the starter and the testing being equal for both. I.E. both qbing the ones and threes equally.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 5:54 am to Rudy40
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From reports I have heard on the radio and 3 different people who went to the practice that the Gridiron club was allowed to attend the week before the spring game, JJ has practiced exclusively with the first team and Mett exclusively with the second and third team.
Obviously that is not an open competition and I see no reason to think Miles will change that in the fall. My opinion is if he puts Mett splitting time with the first offense the difference between Mett and JJ would be too pronounced to continue with the sham that JJ is the better qb. By having JJ play with the ones against the two's and three's and Mett with the two's and three's against the ones it keeps up the illusion that JJ is the better qb.
Rudy, I agree with everything in your post (and can confirm the Gridiron Club piece)except for the statement about keeping up the illusion that JJ is the better qb. I have no such illusions, and we certainly haven't seen it, even with the deck stacking you note.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 5:58 am to Mike Linebacker
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However, in my judgment, it vastly underestimates how horrible a QB Jordan Jefferson is. If the 13 games of 2010 (in which he threw 7 TD passes and barely averaged 100 yards a game passing despite having three 5 star players at WR) did not convince you, go watch the spring game again. He was something like 4 of 14 in a situation in which he commanded the starting unit against our current 2nd and 3rd teamers. He missed wide open receivers. Wide open. And Shep and Ware each made nice, difficult catches that stopped a travesty of a quarterbacking performance from turning into an abortion of QB play.
He is so bad that if you gave me the option of picking an FBS QB out of the hat or JJ with all of his experience, I'd be willing to take the worst rated of three names that I pull and guarantee you that even still, he'd be a better QB than JJ.
So when we compare him to Mett, who admittedly hasn't played an SEC game but who has already outperformed two SEC starters in spring games and who led his JUCO team to a championship game and who has shown an ability to throw lots of TD passes and shockingly few interceptions, it seems to me that maybe Les ought to reconsider his QB competition and actually make it a real one.
If #9 is our starter v. Oregon, we will either lose the game or win it by the skin of our teeth.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 8:59 am to Hitchcock
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Hitchcock
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the past 40 years, LSU has been ranked 21 times in both major polls. JJ QB'd teams have been ranked in both years he was the Starting QB.
oh dear god there is no way someone can be that retarded....please tell me you were joking....giving any of those wins to a QB ranked 112th in the nation is beyond insanity...
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