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re: Haskins completed 56% against Penn State on Saturday.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 11:44 am to Open Your Eyes
Posted on 10/1/18 at 11:44 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:
they cease to be facts
ok. you're not being rational. that's all you had to say. quote:
subjective inferences
no. they're facts. quote:link?
then those subjective inferences are completely pointless
quote:good grief. i get the impression you don't watch the games.
there no definitive beginning or end to when ensminger is "pushing,"
quote:here's where you're wrong. not only did i reference burrow's qbr, but i also showed how when lsu is actually mixing it up/throwing downfield, you know, those things that characterize an offense that's trying, burrow is about as good as anybody, especially given the competition
you are only applying that parameter burrow
quote:false
Anybody can set any statistical parameter they want to make anyone look good or bad
quote:i used "commonly accepted stats." you just don't want to read between the lines, i.e. the 2nd half when lsu is leading big
The commonly accepted stats are commonly accepted for a reason
quote:what the frick? have you EVER watched football? analysts do this ALL THE TIME
No other quarterback gets his stats recompiled the way you and others do for burrow
quote:i haven't gotten offended one time. although i did call out your ridiculous response to a facile correlation
quit getting offended
quote:you're making this WAY more difficult than it really is.
you thinking madeup quarterback stats based on dropped passes and playcallers letting up has anything to with strength of record
the point i was making is that there were 2 games against lesser competition when lsu had a big lead and CLEARLY changed the playcalling. i realize you don't want to accept this but, it affects the passing stats. PLOT TWIST
moreover, when lsu plays a stronger opponent and the game is closer, the stats seem to be better. and burrow's stats are improving in comparison with other qb's. WHO KNEW?
i can't believe how much effort you are putting into this. it's like trying to explain why the sky is blue to a kid
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 11:51 am to bfniii
quote:
i can't believe how much effort you are putting into this. it's like trying to explain why the sky is blue to a kid
They have "learned the truth" from ESPN. It is the gospel (to some people)
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 11:53 am
Posted on 10/1/18 at 11:52 am to justustm2
quote:i swear it's like none of you even watched the game.
you forget to mention the dropped balls and offensive line shortcomings he had to overcome? And the quality of the defense he played?
both herbie and fowler were commenting on how haskins had ONE PASS attempt beyond 10 yards in the first half and that he had thrown 27 screens so far this season. yeah, he looked great on the 5 million screens they ran. when he tried to pass beyond that, he missed BADLY. especially in the 2nd half when he tried to go deep a couple of times. the passes were way off.
yeah, he made a gutsy play on the scramble and hit the receiver who ran for a td. and his first pass of the game for 8 yards looked sharp. other than that, there weren't nearly as many "drops" as people are saying. the o line wasn't nearly as bad as people were saying.
he wasn't asked to do much. throw 5 million screens, miss on some under 10 yard attempts, miss wildly on a couple of deep shots. and btw, burrow is an infinitely better runner.
personally, i think lsu got the better end of the deal. haskins has a big upside and will probably end up being really really good for them but burrow is better and has better intangibles
Posted on 10/1/18 at 11:53 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
Watch what happens when LSU beats Georgia.
Lsu has already beaten top 10 opponents on the road and at a neutral site. What would a win at home against one do that those didn't?
quote:
And at the end of the season, let's revisit whether or not Haskins is Better than Burrow or not.
Why are you afraid to do it now?
quote:
Haskins is a very good QB, but NOT better than Burrow)
Haskins passed burrow on the depth chart at Ohio st last year.
Haskins was on the field beating Michigan last year, not burrow.
Burrow left Ohio st because he didn't think he was going to start over Haskins.
Haskins has far better numbers than burrow does on the season.
Haskins has far better numbers against inferior teams than burrow does.
Haskins has far better numbers against a top 10 opponent than burrow does.
Now, give your evidence that burrow is better than Haskins.
quote:
BTW, CBS Named Burrow the SEC player of the week today - national media is starting to notice Burrow.
Haskins has been named big 10 player of the week 3 times this year, including this past week.
CBS named Haskins national player of the week after week 3.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 11:54 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:since you're so fond of comparisons, how about you compare the number of screens the 2 qb's have thrown vs the 10+ yard passes and factor in strength of competition
Very few fans of any school see that outside of you
Posted on 10/1/18 at 11:57 am to justustm2
quote:then that's your problem
I am not the only one your scorned lover posts annoys
quote:then go somewhere else
Nobody wants to constantly read
quote:then why are you complaining about "whining"
this is an LSU board and I tend to read everything LSU related on it
quote:you must have missed all of the former lsu qb threads that have been posted over the last couple of years where people chronicle their journey and stats. i personally find it an interesting topic and situation
I guarantee 95+% could care less about your claim that Burrow is better than Haskins and Barrett
Posted on 10/1/18 at 11:57 am to bfniii
Meyer gave him a date. Went past date. It’s actually pretty simple. Meyer couldn’t or wouldn’t decide but if u from Ohio u know that Haskins best Mich. so Joe being from Ohio ultimately knew what the decision was going to b.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:00 pm to bfniii
quote:
yeah, he looked great on the 5 million screens they ran. when he tried to pass beyond that, he missed BADLY.
Penn State did exactly what they said they would. Thhey knocked him off his spot. Haskins is not nearly as accurate without time to throw. He throws all bullets. That's great if he is deadly accurate (he usually is). But if those passes are a foot or to out of the sweet-spot, they are very tough for a WR to handle. So, some of those so-called "drops" were QB error.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:00 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:coming from the person who can't even understand how the oc affects qb stats.
Your argument is such a mess
quote:oh good grief. burrow was hurt and you know that
haskins on the field beating Michigan
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:02 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:
No one else would care enough to keep rehashing an irrelevant point 4 months later
people post former lsu player stats frequently. wake up
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:03 pm to Eriq Killmonger
quote:what about all the passes he missed on? was that on the wr too?
Haskins' interception literally was caused by an WR dropping the ball
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:05 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:
CBS named Haskins national player of the week after week 3.
Old news. CBS named Burrow SEC of the Week yesterday.
LINK /
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:22 pm to slackster
quote:but it's ceteris parabis meaning, it's the same for the other qb's too
YPC includes YAC. Taking a screen to the house blows up those numbers
quote:lsu at nearly 8 ypa.
YPA is available, which is a better measure of the effectiveness
#1 wsu - 7 ypa.
ole miss - 9 ypa.
ok st - 9 ypa.
a&m - 8 ypa
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:23 pm to Eriq Killmonger
quote:
Heisman conversations?
like that has anything to do with anything quote:other than the reasons i've been giving?
Why are Haskins numbers are better than Burrow's this season?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:25 pm to bfniii
quote:
Why are Haskins numbers are better than Burrow's this season?
other than the reasons i've been giving?
How WR's interact while running routes is a major issue. OSU's top 3 WRs have been together more than 4 years (they are 5th year Seniors). 4 other OSU WRs are in their 3rd year.
LSUs WRs are now just beginning to gel with Burrow and each other
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:25 pm to Eriq Killmonger
quote:you know that coaches have done stupider things than this right?
Meyer was willing to risk his job and go with the lesser of the QBs
quote:oh my word. do you keep up with the news? this kind of thing goes on EVERY YEAR in cfb
Urban was going to bet his multi million dollar lively hood on such an emotional driven decision?
quote:you might want to throttle back on that, champ
That's the problem with idiots
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:26 pm to husslemane
quote:watch again taking out the screens. tell me what you find
drops by the receivers. Watch the 1st quarter.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:28 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
You are pathetic....
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:28 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:do you have some vested interest in crapping on burrow to prop up haskins? you seem to be going to a lot of trouble to ignore something that's pretty obvious - haskins is throwing A TON of screens and hasn't played any competition. burrow is in a brand new system with new offense players with a new oc and has played infinitely tougher competition
Open Your Eyes
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:29 pm to lsu2006
quote:as opposed to the other halfwits in this thread?
Man you sure are a shitty Ohio State fan
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