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re: Haskins completed 56% against Penn State on Saturday.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:39 am to Bucks2TigerFan
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:39 am to Bucks2TigerFan
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No matter what his screen name is, I'm not sure that the OP is a Buckeye fan. He may be an Ohioan and hence from the Buckeye state, but may prefer his local MAC team, such as Ohio U or Toledo or Kent State or BGSU, etc. While the vast majority of Ohioans root for both their local MAC team and Ohio State, there are a few who like one and dislike the other.
The OP has made enough derogatory statements about OSU and how they treated Joey B that I doubt he is a Buckeyes fan.
This guy is either from Burrow's home town, or actually one of his family members (which I truly believe). Nobody even brings up Haskins on here but him. He's constantly trying to bring down Haskins and props up Burrow, by using half-assed analysis.
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:48 am to Datbayoubengal
He’s definitely a family member. No one else would care enough to keep rehashing an irrelevant point 4 months later. It’s clearly a personal pride issue.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 3:17 am to Open Your Eyes
It's also about what Meyer wants in a quarterback based on the system that they run. It doesn't make either one a better quarterback. But I guarantee Joe has more Moxie . Like what the f*** people you can go back and forth on this and find thousands of different points to prove both...
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 3:19 am
Posted on 10/1/18 at 6:24 am to koLSU86
Per Johnny Dixon and Mike Weber Burrow was better than Haskins and JT Barrett. My niece is good friends with these two players plus several others. She plays on the softball team. Meyer was not a fan of Burrow. He was recruited by Tom Herman and Luke Fickel.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:21 am to LUS Tiger in FL
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Agreed
Their WRs didnt drop any passes and their OL play was stellar.
Haskins' interception literally was caused by an WR dropping the ball.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:36 am to bfniii
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says who?
as i've said multiple times, it proves that burrow/ens are getting the ball downfield effectively which also shows that he's got time to throw. they are also spreading it around to different receivers which makes gameplanning against lsu harder
YPC includes YAC. Taking a screen to the house blows up those numbers.
Unfortunately, college stats for Average Intended Air Yards aren't available like they are in the NFL. However, YPA is available, which is a better measure of the effectiveness of a passing game than YPC.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:44 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You do understand that NFL AND college football is a multi-billion dollar business, right? And that even back-up QB's can make seven-figures for 4 or 5 years. So 5 to 10 million minimum is potentially on the line.
Meyer has consistently called the 2 QBs equal. 50/50. A coin flip. So if you were a pro prospect, would you risk 5 or 10 million on a 50/50 shot? Or transfer to take the 90/10 shot? (9 to 1 in your favor)
C'mon man.
He could have transferred next year if Haskins beat him out at OSU this year.
Hell, Orgeron wouldn't name a started until a week or so before the season, so clearly Brennan and Burrow were equal, right?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:51 am to koLSU86
Had Burrow been the QB for Ohio StAte against PennState the game would not have been nearly as close. Burrow more accurate. Ohio StAte offense much better than LSU. LSU defense much better than Ohio StAte. No doubt Haskins is a very good college QB and with experience maybe great. He threw passes to athletes in space and the PennState LBs and DBs are so slow that they could not tackle in space
Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You mean the Ohio State poster who infers that he is tight with the Burrow family?
The speaker or in this case the poster cannot infer, he implies. The listener is the one who infers. Now that we got that out the way. Dude you are pathetic. I have one simple question. Can you explain to me if Burrow is better than Haskins why the following things are taking place...
1. Why Haskins is the only one of the two that name is mentioned in Heisman conversations?(And please do not give me some media conspiracy shite.)
2. Why are Haskins numbers are better than Burrow's this season?
I mean what other metrics are you using to justify your claim that Burrow is better than Haskins besides your obsession with Burrow?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:02 am to EKirbySmith
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Per Johnny Dixon and Mike Weber Burrow was better than Haskins and JT Barrett.
So they are better at assessing who is a better QB for a system than the coach who has been at the top of his game and made a QB like Tebow a Heisman winner???? GTFOH
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My niece is good friends with these two players plus several others
This is where I make a joke, but I just ain't in the mood.
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Meyer was not a fan of Burrow. He was recruited by Tom Herman and Luke Fickel.
So let me get this straight, Meyer was willing to risk his job and go with the lesser of the QBs just to spite the guy he was not a fan of? Do y'all know how stupid yall sound?! Literally Urban was going to bet his multi million dollar lively hood on such an emotional driven decision? That's the problem with idiots they project their foolish logic on those who proven to be better decisions makers in life just feed the bullshite they tell themselves.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:19 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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but only 11 of 27 (40%) on all other passes.
At least 3 of those (including the interception) were drops by the receivers. Watch the 1st quarter.
*See how easy that is?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:23 am to Eriq Killmonger
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Haskins' interception literally was caused by an WR dropping the ball.
Exactly. Clearly someone didn't watch the game. When they go back and watch, I might be willing to entertain the discussion.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:38 am to Eriq Killmonger
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Haskins' interception literally was caused by an WR dropping the ball.
I know- OP has always come up with adjusted stats for Burrow about drops etc. So it was more sarcasm.
Haskins had a lot of drops in the TCU game as well.
I believe Burrow is gonna be really good for us. But Haskins is a stud
Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:44 am to LUS Tiger in FL
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I know- OP has always come up with adjusted stats for Burrow about drops etc. So it was more sarcasm.
Haskins had a lot of drops in the TCU game as well.
I believe Burrow is gonna be really good for us. But Haskins is a stud
My bad.
Yea the OP has to be one of Burrows distant relatives who has gone off the rails.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:46 am to mhc4tigers
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Had Burrow been the QB for Ohio StAte against PennState the game would not have been nearly as close.
Had Haskins beenthe QB for LSU against South Eastern and La Tech the game would not have been nearly as close. See how that game works now?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:59 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You mean the Ohio State poster who infers that he is tight with the Burrow family?
I mean the one that said this is response to you claiming Meyer "dinked" burrow around:
"You are putting a spin on this that I have never seen or heard anywhere from Joe or his dad Jimmy or even local sportswriters who know and talk to them.
Are you a mind reader? Do you have a bug in their house or his apartment? I think you are just projecting your own weird ideas on them."
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 9:08 am
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:07 am to mhc4tigers
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Had Burrow been the QB for Ohio StAte against PennState the game would not have been nearly as close
Because burrow's start on the road against a top 10 team wasn't a close game? Because burrow's numbers from that game were so superior to haskins'? Is that how you know this?
What about if Haskins was at Lsu and started against clearly inferior opponents like Southeastern? Would he have completed more than 50% of his passes?
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Burrow more accurate.
Haskins worst game this season he completed 56% of his passes, and that is still significantly higher than burrow's completion percentage on the season.
So again, you know this how?
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He threw passes to athletes in space and the PennState LBs and DBs are so slow that they could not tackle in space
How do you feel about dillon's td against auburn?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:43 am to Eriq Killmonger
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. Why Haskins is the only one of the two that name is mentioned in Heisman conversations?(And please do not give me some media conspiracy shite.)
Watch what happens when LSU beats Georgia. Let's take a pdf copy of this thread and re-visit the Heisman question then. And at the end of the season, let's revisit whether or not Haskins is Better than Burrow or not. (Haskins is a very good QB, but NOT better than Burrow)
BTW, CBS Named Burrow the SEC player of the week today - national media is starting to notice Burrow.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Man you sure are a shitty Ohio State fan
Posted on 10/1/18 at 11:37 am to Eriq Killmonger
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So let me get this straight, Meyer was willing to risk his job and go with the lesser of the QBs just to spite the guy he was not a fan of? Do y'all know how stupid yall sound?! Literally Urban was going to bet his multi million dollar lively hood on such an emotional driven decision? That's the problem with idiots they project their foolish logic on those who proven to be better decisions makers in life just feed the bull shite they tell themselves.
Do you know how stupid YOU sound? Meyer said it. Burrow and Haskins were equal in his eyes.
Why would Burrow hang around after the date Meyer promised to decide? Both are pro prospects. Potentially multi millions on the line.
There is a hell of a lot of office politics in football (I am CERTAIN you don't know that by your posts). Ryan Day is a pro-style OC. Beck/Herman (the guys that recruited Burrow) are Read/option. Haskins was Day's guy. Burrow was Herman's guy (Herman left to coach Texas. Ohio State blocked Burrow from going to Texas.
Burrow assessed that he had better odds at LSU. Simple as that. Burrow is a slightly better QB than Haskins, period - my opinion*. (Yes, Haskins throws the ball harder - if that's what floats your boat)
*let's see how it all plays out at the end of the season.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 11:45 am
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