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re: Haskins completed 56% against Penn State on Saturday.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:08 pm to bfniii
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:08 pm to bfniii
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it's stats, meaning facts. it's not gymnastics.
When you have to qualify the "facts" with statements like "take away the 3 halves when the offense wasn't trying" they cease to be facts. They become subjective inferences. And if you're not going to apply those same subjective parameters to all variables involved in the comparison then those subjective inferences are completely pointless.
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there's nothing subjective about it. it's clear when ens is pushing and when he's not. at least to reasonable, experienced football observers.
It's completely subjective because not only is there no definitive beginning or end to when ensminger is "pushing," but you are only applying that parameter burrow. As I said, go through and calculate the stats for tua, Haskins, Murray, browning, from, etc when their play caller is "pushing" vs when he isn't, then come back to us.
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they don't "make" burrow look good. they prove that he is good.
No they don't. No more or less than any other ridiculous parameter stat like his completion percentage when throwing to the right side of the field between 7:00-8:00pm when the temperature outside is somewhere between 85-90 degrees.
Anybody can set any statistical parameter they want to make anyone look good or bad. The commonly accepted stats are commonly accepted for a reason. No other quarterback gets his stats recompiled the way you and others do for burrow to not factor drops, throwaways, pressures, conservative play calling, etc. Go recompile every other qb's stats based on those same parameters or quit getting offended when nobody pays attention to your selectively made up "facts"
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there's nothing ridiculous about it. it's part of the reason why lsu for the 2nd week in a row is #1 in strength of record according to espn. there's your "comparison"
So that's a no then? You're not going to apply the favorable parameters you set for burrow to the other quarterbacks you're comparing him too? I wonder why.
at you thinking madeup quarterback stats based on dropped passes and playcallers letting up has anything to with strength of record. 
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Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:10 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Looks like Ohio State had two really good QBs and we were lucky that one of them left and came here. No need to try and knock Haskins. Guy is having a hell of a season.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:12 pm to bfniii
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Haskins wasn't nearly as bad as the stats suggest early on.
he played a good defense and it showed
And Heisman candidate McSorley also played a good defense, and that showed, too - McSorley was 50% on completions.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:15 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
LOL! You can’t directly compare a performance at home against a crappy defense versus a performance on the road against a top-10 team in a very hostile environment.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:21 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Somehow I knew you’d be here with crap. Did you forget to mention the dropped balls and offensive line shortcomings he had to overcome? And the quality of the defense he played? All excuses you made for Burrow.
You have a fetish with Burrow. You can’t be a real OSU fan sitting around waiting for Haskins to fail and micro reviewing his stats to find fault to support your deranged obsession with Burrow. Anyone complaing about Haskins as OSU’s QB is psycho and unrealistically biased. How could he have played better this year or last year against Michigan? Please just stop!
I have predicted that Burrow would continually improve and be an excellent QB for LSU. But you have become annoying with the constant drivel about LSU got the better QB. We are happy with Burrow. Leave it at that. We could care less if he is better than Haskins and Barrett as you claim. He is good enough for us.
You have a fetish with Burrow. You can’t be a real OSU fan sitting around waiting for Haskins to fail and micro reviewing his stats to find fault to support your deranged obsession with Burrow. Anyone complaing about Haskins as OSU’s QB is psycho and unrealistically biased. How could he have played better this year or last year against Michigan? Please just stop!
I have predicted that Burrow would continually improve and be an excellent QB for LSU. But you have become annoying with the constant drivel about LSU got the better QB. We are happy with Burrow. Leave it at that. We could care less if he is better than Haskins and Barrett as you claim. He is good enough for us.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:37 pm to Cherry Cheesecake
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LOL! You can’t directly compare a performance at home against a crappy defense versus a performance on the road against a top-10 team in a very hostile environment.
Of course you can't. Who said you could? But McSorley's performance is comparable - 50% completions against Ohio State.
And Ohio State played pretty much cupcake defenses up to Penn State. TCU is OK for a Big-12 - but not top-tier.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:46 pm to justustm2
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I have predicted that Burrow would continually improve and be an excellent QB for LSU. But you have become annoying with the constant drivel about LSU got the better QB. We are happy with Burrow. Leave it at that. We could care less if he is better than Haskins and Barrett as you claim. He is good enough for us.
You keep saying "we" as if there is only one LSU opinion on Burrow. I'm directing my comments primarily at the LSU fans who clearly see that Burrow is as least as good a QB as Haskins... maybe a little better.
And if my posts annoy you, why not go to another post? Is your opinion the ONLY one allowed in your mind? How dare anyone disagree with you?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:46 pm to osutigerfan
Geeze here’s another one. We have plenty like you guys in our fan base. semjackass (BRAVEHEART) is a prime example. And the one that had Lee as a part of his name.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:51 pm to JakeFromStateFarm
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No need to try and knock Haskins. Guy is having a hell of a season.
But it’s not good enough for these nut jobs. And some of our nut jobs are joining in.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:53 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Of course you can't. Who said you could? But McSorley's performance is comparable - 50%. And Ohio State played pretty much cupcake defenses up to Penn State. TCU is OK for a Big-12 - but not top-tier
Where would Southeastern Louisiana stack up in the list of defenses ohio st has played?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 11:55 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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I'm directing my comments primarily at the LSU fans who clearly see that Burrow is as least as good a QB as Haskins... maybe a little better.
That's the problem. Very few fans of any school see that outside of you. Because it isn't true. And as you keep getting told and keep ignoring, nobody is wanting it to be true except for you and a few others for some strange reason.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:10 am to Buckeye Jeaux
It seems I am not the only one your scorned lover posts annoys. Nobody wants to constantly read your constant whining about how Burrow is better than Haskins. No one gives a shite. Burrow is our QB. Haskins is OSU’s QB.
As far as me reading your posts, this is an LSU board and I tend to read everything LSU related on it and have done so since 2005. I’m vested. The “we” is as in we LSU fans. And I guarantee 95+% could care less about your claim that Burrow is better than Haskins and Barrett. “We” only care that he plays well for “us”. And up to this point “we” are happy with his play and are confident he will continue to get better?
As far as me reading your posts, this is an LSU board and I tend to read everything LSU related on it and have done so since 2005. I’m vested. The “we” is as in we LSU fans. And I guarantee 95+% could care less about your claim that Burrow is better than Haskins and Barrett. “We” only care that he plays well for “us”. And up to this point “we” are happy with his play and are confident he will continue to get better?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:12 am to justustm2
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But it’s not good enough for these nut jobs. And some of our nut jobs are joining in.
NO ONE is knocking Haskins. Certainly Meyer is qualified to rate Haskins and Burrow. Meyer has said multiple times that they are equal.
Is Meyer knocking Haskins?
Just because some bone-headed sports writer said "Burrow got beat out", and then another slew of bone-headed sports writers started to repeat that idiotic narrative, does not make it factual.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 12:16 am
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:18 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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NO ONE is knocking Haskins
You've done it multiple times in this thread, starting with the op.
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Certainly Meyer is qualified to rate Haskins and Burrow. Meyer has said multiple times that they are equal.
And yet somehow you continue to say it was unfair to burrow that Meyer wanted to keep the competition open.
Your argument is such a mess, you can't even keep up with your own stupidity anymore.
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Is Meyer knocking Haskins?
Is meyer still calling them equal after 5 weeks into the season? Somehow I doubt it.
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Just because some bone-headed sports writer said "Burrow got beat out", and then another slew of bone-headed sports writers started to repeat that idiotic narrative, does not make it factual.
I guess the bone-headed sports writers, along with the rest of the country, all mistakenly thought they saw haskins on the field beating Michigan last year when in actuality it was burrow.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 12:23 am
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:19 am to justustm2
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As far as me reading your posts, this is an LSU board and I tend to read everything LSU related on it and have done so since 2005. I’m vested. The “we” is as in we LSU fans. And I guarantee 95+% could care less about your claim that Burrow is better than Haskins and Barrett. “We” only care that he plays well for “us”. And up to this point “we” are happy with his play and are confident he will continue to get better?
BS - You have bought in to the "Burrow got beat out" false narrative, and you're one of those guys who can't possibly be wrong about anything - Ever. . "Open Your Eyes" is another one.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 12:23 am
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:26 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Burrow got beat out. No one in their right minds would transfer from their home school if the writing wasn’t on the wall in some way, shape or form.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:27 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You have bought in to the "Burrow got beat out" false narrative, and you're one of those guys who can't possibly be wrong about anything - Ever. . "Open Your Eyes" is another one.
I find it very interesting that everyone else has been playing along with your "burrow never lost the job" narrative in this thread without an issue, and YOU are the one now bringing up the media lying about burrow getting beat out.
I also find it interesting that an Ohio st poster in this thread called you out for basically making up most of the shite you are passing off as fact from the burrows perspective.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:32 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Great posts - I agree with all your posts in this thread & thrilled to have Jeaux Bureauxxx at LSU!!!!
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:36 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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Burrow got beat out. No one in their right minds would transfer from their home school if the writing wasn’t on the wall in some way, shape or form.
You do understand that NFL AND college football is a multi-billion dollar business, right? And that even back-up QB's can make seven-figures for 4 or 5 years. So 5 to 10 million minimum is potentially on the line.
Meyer has consistently called the 2 QBs equal. 50/50. A coin flip. So if you were a pro prospect, would you risk 5 or 10 million on a 50/50 shot? Or transfer to take the 90/10 shot? (9 to 1 in your favor)
C'mon man.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 1:01 am
Posted on 10/1/18 at 12:40 am to Open Your Eyes
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I also find it interesting that an Ohio st poster in this thread called you out for basically making up most of the shite you are passing off as fact from the burrows perspective.
You mean the Ohio State poster who infers that he is tight with the Burrow family?
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