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re: First year starting qbs have won national titles 5 of the past 6 years
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:57 pm to ItsThatDude12
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:57 pm to ItsThatDude12
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There's no argument you can make that Jennings proved in 12 games he was the guy.
and there's no argument you can make that Harris was.
and all reports say that Harris had trouble with playbook and film study. you could see it on the field.
i hope they both turn out great and win us NCs.
its pointless arguing about this shite.
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:59 pm to Tigerbait357
quote:
. You can see the players played with much better energy and excitement after Harris replaced Jennings vs NMSU.
everything is sunshine and rainbows against NMSU....then you play auburn
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:00 pm to SammyTiger
pro style qbs take snaps from the gun because the shotgun formation is used in a pro style system.
the spread qb almost always takes the snap from the gun, not under center.
They also have different skill sets. a pro style qb should have a good arm and at least be accurate. the spread qb has better legs and isn't going to be as accurate. Some kids can be thrown into either system and some can't. Jennings and harris look like ones that need to be in the spread. we can still use some pro style formations but we need to be in the gun more often.
Id prefer to see LSU come out with dural out wide, diarse in the slot, and malachi on the other side. Then buga and williams/jones in the backfield with harris. Then we can force the defense to spread out and that should open up holes for buga and make blocking easier on our line.
our young qbs would be more comfortable in the system and it allows for way more isolation of play makers and unpredictable play calls.
the spread qb almost always takes the snap from the gun, not under center.
They also have different skill sets. a pro style qb should have a good arm and at least be accurate. the spread qb has better legs and isn't going to be as accurate. Some kids can be thrown into either system and some can't. Jennings and harris look like ones that need to be in the spread. we can still use some pro style formations but we need to be in the gun more often.
Id prefer to see LSU come out with dural out wide, diarse in the slot, and malachi on the other side. Then buga and williams/jones in the backfield with harris. Then we can force the defense to spread out and that should open up holes for buga and make blocking easier on our line.
our young qbs would be more comfortable in the system and it allows for way more isolation of play makers and unpredictable play calls.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:00 pm to Choctaw
I understand this but it really chaps my arse when someone says "he had his CHANCE vs Auburn".
bullshite, he was setup to fail in the first quarter with running 18-21 plays and getting down 17-0, and was never given another shot.
I understand it's been botched so badly noone can make sense of if but this is the rant so we will discuss.
bullshite, he was setup to fail in the first quarter with running 18-21 plays and getting down 17-0, and was never given another shot.
I understand it's been botched so badly noone can make sense of if but this is the rant so we will discuss.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:02 pm to PurpGold 14-0
How many years did Flynn start for LSU?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:02 pm to ItsThatDude12
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he was setup to fail in the first quarter with running 18-21 plays
this is bullshite. running the ball does not set the QB up to fail.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:03 pm to ItsThatDude12
well what? LSU has and is willing to spend money just like both of them. our facilities are right in line with both tosu and bama. we pay our staff more, we are in a recruiting hot bed. we have every single thing they have. The only difference is historical back ground of the program. Bama is arguably number 1 or 2 and tosu is probably around 5 while LSU is at 9. the thing is historical place really doesn't hold much weight. Every single key area LSU is on par with the top schools.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:03 pm to heartbreakTiger
Then explain either of Metts games against Ole Miss.
They're really not... Fix recruiting and you fix the offense.
2005 - Ryan Perriloux*
2007 - Jarrett Lee
2008 - Jordan Jefferson
2009 - Russell Shepard*
2010 - Zach Lee*
2011 - Zach Mettenberger*
2012 - Gunner Kiel*
2013 - Anthony Jennings
2014 - Brandon Harris*
*Denotes a QB expected to legitimately hold down a starting job.
quote:
The issues at LSU are fairly deep with what is wrong with our offense and how we fix it.
They're really not... Fix recruiting and you fix the offense.
2005 - Ryan Perriloux*
2007 - Jarrett Lee
2008 - Jordan Jefferson
2009 - Russell Shepard*
2010 - Zach Lee*
2011 - Zach Mettenberger*
2012 - Gunner Kiel*
2013 - Anthony Jennings
2014 - Brandon Harris*
*Denotes a QB expected to legitimately hold down a starting job.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:04 pm to heartbreakTiger
quote:
They also have different skill sets. a pro style qb should have a good arm and at least be accurate. the spread qb has better legs and isn't going to be as accurate.
thats not true, and also not what people want in a spread QB. That is an option QB. You shouldn't have to sacrifice accuracy ever. And you can't succeed with an inaccurate QB if you wan tot pass the ball.
Jennings won't look good in any system. He is an ok runner, so he will look ok running the ball. But he won't be a good passer just because he took the snap from the shotgun.
quote:
Id prefer to see LSU come out with dural out wide, diarse in the slot, and malachi on the other side. Then buga and williams/jones in the backfield with harris. Then we can force the defense to spread out and that should open up holes for buga and make blocking easier on our line.
I would leave for LSu to line up with 3 receivers more often, but we need a QB who can get them the ball.
Jennings passes are inaccurate and have low velocity.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:04 pm to Choctaw
quote:
running the ball does not set the QB up to fail.
and if people actually remember the Auburn game, LSU was running really freaking well on 1st and 2nd down
3rd down killed LSU early against Auburn
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:05 pm to Salmon
quote:If by towards the end you mean the last freaking game, then yes, our coached figured it out
.and they did towards the end of the year
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:05 pm to Choctaw
quote:
everything is sunshine and rainbows against NMSU....then you play auburn
So he shouldn't get another chance after Jennings shite the bed the entire season. People would celebrate that Jennings reached a 50 percent completion rate.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:06 pm to lsupride87
A&M as well
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:06 pm to Choctaw
quote:
this is bullshite. running the ball does not set the QB up to fail.
No but running plays/formations out of their comfort zones, starting them on the road in a hostile environment, and digging a 17 point hole sure as hell does.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:07 pm to Tigerbait357
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So he shouldn't get another chance after Jennings shite the bed the entire season.
nobody has said this
and most people think that the reason Harris didn't see the field anymore had anything to do with football skills
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:07 pm to SammyTiger
quote:i agree, which leads us to a recruiting problem. we didn't do a good job identifying talent. shite happens though during recruiting and sometimes shite players play other shitty players and it makes them look good.
Jennings won't look good in any system. He is an ok runner, so he will look ok running the ball. But he won't be a good passer just because he took the snap from the shotgun.
I think Harris is more likely to get them the ball. We could still be a power running team that les miles craves out of the shotgun. Auburn does it really well. Im not sure cam could adapt, he would probably need to be on the field for us to try and move to the spread.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:07 pm to heartbreakTiger
quote:The dumbest thing in all of sports is "shutting it down" or "benching a player for a turnover". The probability is actually in your favor another turnover wont happen. Alot of football coaches still do things that they feel comfortable with because it was "the norm in the 70's when they grew up, even thought it is completely illogical and stupid. Our coach just seems to do alot of these things
another issue with miles, if someone turns it over they are in the dog house. Then we shut down the o for the game and play lets try to not frick up. A coach like urban doesn't let off the throttle just because something bad happens.
However, under miles certain players are allowed to turn it over.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:09 pm to Choctaw
quote:
No but running plays/formations out of their comfort zones, starting them on the road in a hostile environment, and digging a 17 point hole sure as hell does.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:09 pm to Choctaw
quote:Ummmmmmm , NMSU was erupting volcanos and earthquakes for shitastic Jennings
everything is sunshine and rainbows against NMSU.
2/5 with 2 ints
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:10 pm to Salmon
the problem is why did it take us to the last game before we tried to make the offense evolve and fit into something Jennings could suck less at?
The coaches saw him all spring and summer. we saw how horrible the o was against wisconsin until we spread them out. we saw the struggle vs state. It shouldn't have taken that long to finally adjust. I understand we didn't have a bye week until late in the year but we could have started putting in things like jet sweeps and read plays earlier in the year.
The coaches saw him all spring and summer. we saw how horrible the o was against wisconsin until we spread them out. we saw the struggle vs state. It shouldn't have taken that long to finally adjust. I understand we didn't have a bye week until late in the year but we could have started putting in things like jet sweeps and read plays earlier in the year.
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