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re: First year starting qbs have won national titles 5 of the past 6 years
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:28 pm to PurpGold 14-0
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:28 pm to PurpGold 14-0
how many of them were true freshmen?
0?
oh ok
0?
oh ok
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:33 pm to monsterballads
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still led the team to points
what did jennings do when he came in at 34-7?
IM NOT ADVOCATING JENNINGS OVER HARRIS. This was purely about first year starting QBs. Not comparing the two players. Simply stating Harris was given playing time to take the job.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:34 pm to SammyTiger
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how many of them were true freshmen?
that NOT the point!!
The point is that inexperienced QBs can, and do, flourish.
You can nit-pick all you want about whether they were redshirts, or transfers, or how old they are.
But the point is that QBs can be very productive in their first year of play, given the proper scheme and coaching. That's it.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:35 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
how many of them were true freshmen?
Not the OP's point.
Oh OK
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:36 pm to Mickey Goldmill
yea running the ball 17 out of 20 times while our defense couldn't stop dog shite was giving him a chance. The auburn game plan was a complete fricking mess. It was that way because les was scared of a turnover. Harris played well vs new mexico state and mississippi state with playing from the shotgun formation. against auburn we put him under center way too many times.
Les fricked up in trying to go ultra conservative all year long.
Les fricked up in trying to go ultra conservative all year long.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:37 pm to atltiger6487
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The point is that inexperienced QBs can, and do, flourish.
well the OP should have said inexperienced instead of saying young and hinting at LSUs failures of young QBs
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:37 pm to atltiger6487
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But the point is that QBs can be very productive in their first year of play, given the proper scheme and coaching. That's it.
DING DING DING
Correct!!
Except us, WHY?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:38 pm to Gray Tiger
Evidently this was all the fault of Harris and our coaches had absolutely nothing to do with Harris's readiness, coaching etc
Man, Learn something new in here everyday
Man, Learn something new in here everyday
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:38 pm to PurpGold 14-0
That's what happens when you develop a scheme that actually takes advantage of the strength of the players.
Also those teams always recruit to their scheme. LSU doesn't do that for QB's.
Also those teams always recruit to their scheme. LSU doesn't do that for QB's.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:38 pm to fab4lsu
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Except us, WHY?
this isn't unique to LSU I promise you, LSU is not the only team that had a 1st year starter that struggled
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:45 pm to fab4lsu
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Not the OP's point.
Oh OK
The OPs point is that they were young and that is fricking stupid.
Inexperienced is one thing, but he is calling these guy young, and that really isn't the case outside the rapist.
Cardale Jones in 22, and ins 4 years our of high school, and has spend 3 years at OSU
AJ McCarron was 3 years out of high school, and a RS Soph
Cam Newton was 4 years out of high school
McElroy was 4 years out of high school and a RS Junior.
his point was that these guys were "young QBs" and really they were not.
The youngest was Winston who is just on another level of talent.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:46 pm to heartbreakTiger
quote:
yea running the ball 17 out of 20 times while our defense couldn't stop dog shite was giving him a chance. The auburn game plan was a complete fricking mess. It was that way because les was scared of a turnover. Harris played well vs new mexico state and mississippi state with playing from the shotgun formation. against auburn we put him under center way too many times.
Les fricked up in trying to go ultra conservative all year long.
Can't say I disagree with this.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:46 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Maybe in the spring. Not saying I don't want Harris. Just saying all these other first year QBs didn't flop like Harris did.
This is actually true. Sometimes these guys are making starts against quality opponents and they don't shite the bed.
Obviously we need to recruit better. Or just cheat better.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:47 pm to Salmon
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LSU is not the only team that had a 1st year starter that struggled
I'm sure some others did struggle;however, this is not the first year LSU has had a first year starter struggle.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:47 pm to Salmon
we have a bigger problem which is recruiting a qb that fits our system. Harris and Jennings are not pro style quarterbacks. The staff should have known this and either recruited a pro style qb or tweak the system. we don't do that though we just jam the players in.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Harris was given an entire game to show what he had.
False. Had he played the entire Auburn game, maybe we would have scored more than 7.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:48 pm to fab4lsu
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this is not the first year LSU has had a first year starter struggle.
right
the problem is you are looking at anomalies, not the norms
would it be nice for LSU to have one of those anomalies every now and then? sure...
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:50 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Les fricked up in trying to go ultra conservative all year long.
Ehh I disagree. We tried to open it up against auburn cus our d sucked. It put us in a bigger hole.
We reverted back to I formation ground and pound and pulled off 3 straight wins and almost a 4th against bama.
It then failed us against arky, then we changed it up a bit the last two games. I think the coaches made the rt decision or else we may have been looken at 1-7 or 0-8 in conference play.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:52 pm to dgnx6
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It then failed us against arky, then we changed it up a bit the last two games. I think the coaches made the rt decision or else we may have been looken at 1-7 or 0-8 in conference play.
It wasn't the approach that failed us, it was a makeshift OL without Vadal and Porter
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:52 pm to Sev09
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False. Had he played the entire Auburn game, maybe we would have scored more than 7.
Jennings came into the game with 5:28 left in the 3rd Qtr after Harris had gone 3/14 passing up to that point.
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