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re: First year starting qbs have won national titles 5 of the past 6 years

Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:16 pm to
They were not TRUE FRESHMAN..

How hard is that to understand?? Seriously?

quote:

Harris was given an entire game to show what he had. Let. It. Go.


You mean one start on the road? One start.

JT Barrett of Ohio St had a terrible start vs Virginia Tech throwing 3 INTs AT HOME and they lost.. but he still got to continue on being their starter and launching a heisman campaign until his injury.

Kyle Allen got his first start vs an inferior ULMonroe.. AT HOME.. and looked pretty poor considering the competition and they barely eeked out a win. He then went on to beat A&m, but lose to Mizz and LSU.. but once they made they commitment they stuck by him because he is their future.. This was even after Kenny Hill was eligible to return to playing.. they stuck with their more talented true freshman.

I wish Harris had been given another chance to redeem himself after one bad road start, but he never was.. and we still lost 4 games under Jennings.
Posted by ItsThatDude12
Giving out Mercy Knees
Member since Apr 2009
9927 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:17 pm to
Don't try to push for Harris they'll be some genius in here to tell you he didn't know the playbook and didn't work hard.

Makes sense a coach would give a kid who didnt know the playbook his first start @ Auburn.

We will never know why he didn't get more opportunties.

Only Answer is ....bc Les Miles.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

he wasn't given the opportunity to take the job.


if he didn't twist his ankle @ auburn I think he would have continued starting.
Posted by PurpGold 14-0
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

They were not TRUE FRESHMAN

The title said FIRST YEAR QBs. Not FRESHMAN QBs.

How hard is that to understand?? Seriously?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23058 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:17 pm to
quote:



He didn't play the entire game genius. He lead us to our only score...and his stats are still higher than AJs for the season.



He played the majority of the game and didnt look ready.
Posted by Tigahbader
Nunya
Member since Oct 2014
767 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:18 pm to
All of what Soulja just said...and then some!
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23595 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

don't act like he wasn't given the opportunity to take the job

it wouldn't be an issue had the "opportunity" been treated the same as all of Jennings'.... it wasn't... it was Miles putting a true freshman in a position to fail and acting like he gave a serious, fair shot... it was meant to appease the fan base...

it was a win win for Miles... if Harris succeeds, the fan base is happy because we are winning and all that goes with it... if he doesn't, he gets to say to the fan base "see, this is what you wanted and it failed" and he can go with the guy he wanted all along (Jennings).... Miles is a very sly dude.... he's not stupid... he knew full well what he was doing putting Harris out there @ Auburn and why he didn't start him the week before at home vs. NM St....
Posted by fab4lsu
NC, SC and La.
Member since Dec 2007
895 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

This illustrates how quickly people assume truth from bold statements without bothering to check for accuracy


accuracy of what?
Do you doubt the accuracy of my post?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Are you disagreeing that younger qbs are coming into college more prepared to play early?


no...I think they are more prepared, mentally and physically

your example is just retarded
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45144 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Again, not saying Harris didn't deserve more time but don't act like he wasn't given the opportunity to take the job.


Well I can't say I'm surprised a true freshman didn't exactly light it up in one of the most hostile environments in the conference against a top 10 team.

Not exactly a fair first test, no?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

How hard is that to understand?? Seriously?


and then you went on to talk about young QBs...when a lot of them were not "young" QBs

they might have lacked experience, but they were no longer "young" in CFB standards

so don't act like it is us that lacks understanding
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23058 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:20 pm to
Harris was thrown to the wolves? Kinda like Jones vs Wisconsin?

He had the whole week to prepare. He said himself he wasn't working hard enough.

You guys aren't listening. I think Harris should have played more. Probably just have continued to start. But he was given a chance to take the job and he played poorly. Many of the other QBs yall mention played great in their first start.
Posted by ItsThatDude12
Giving out Mercy Knees
Member since Apr 2009
9927 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Well I can't say I'm surprised a true freshman didn't exactly light it up in one of the most hostile environments in the conference against a top 10 team. Not exactly a fair first test, no?


So idiots in here consider this "having his chance" when in reality Jennings playing the entire game after running the ball 18-21 plays in a row and resulting in a 17-0 deficit would've resulted in the same final result.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23058 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:22 pm to
Fair? Was the Big Ten Title Game vs a much better Wisconsin team a fair shot?
Posted by ItsThatDude12
Giving out Mercy Knees
Member since Apr 2009
9927 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:22 pm to
Do you remember in that auburn game running the ball 18 of the first 21 plays and being down 17-0 in the first ? I do. The coaches didn't do any favors that game.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:23 pm to
I can't wait for an entire off season of this shite

can't wait
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

He played the majority of the game and didnt look ready.



still led the team to points
what did jennings do when he came in at 34-7?
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:27 pm to
2009: Greg McElroy was draft eligible
2010: Cam Newton was draft eligible
2011: AJ McCarron was young
2012: AJ McCarron was draft-eligible
2013: Jameis Winston was young
2014: Cardale Jones was draft-eligible
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Again, not saying Harris didn't deserve more time but don't act like he wasn't given the opportunity to take the job.


I've already learned that nothing will ever be BH's fault. If he doesn't get on the field it's coaching holding him back. If he plays and bombs then it's still coaching that can't "develop" him.

I'm wondering when did players stop taking responsibility for their own development. I have a hard time believing Peyton Manning would've been a bum QB had someone not "developed" him. The cream always rises to the top.

Maybe the guys we have just don't have "it." It's not like that some shocking statement, most college QBs just aren't that good.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Drew Brees could have been qb that game and we still weren't going to win


Considering the season the Saints had, that isn't a good example.
Try again.
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