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re: Do you want Arkansas or Texas A&M as end of year "Rival?"
Posted on 6/8/12 at 11:53 am to Texas_Aggies
Posted on 6/8/12 at 11:53 am to Texas_Aggies
A&M
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 12:16 pm to YeOle
I recognize that a majority of Rant followers prefer A&M over Arkansas as the year end game. However, it will be years before you ever see A&M ranked #3 or anywhere near that number.
Arkansas was always a tuff game for us and I never understood why the fans were in denial. Is it because Arkansas was a johnny come lately to the SEC. Well, guess what. The addition of A&M and Missouri created this latest mess. The fact that LSU lost their hearing with the SEC regarding scheduling means we are actually no longer playing the SEC E teams for years and years.
For me, Arkansas was just fine as a season ending game. It usually meant something, something that A&M will not other then bragging rights on the internet. The only way A&M will ever see a top five ranking by Thanksgiving would be if probation were to follow shortly.
Arkansas was always a tuff game for us and I never understood why the fans were in denial. Is it because Arkansas was a johnny come lately to the SEC. Well, guess what. The addition of A&M and Missouri created this latest mess. The fact that LSU lost their hearing with the SEC regarding scheduling means we are actually no longer playing the SEC E teams for years and years.
For me, Arkansas was just fine as a season ending game. It usually meant something, something that A&M will not other then bragging rights on the internet. The only way A&M will ever see a top five ranking by Thanksgiving would be if probation were to follow shortly.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 1:39 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
Arkansas.
Texas A&M would make a good early season rivalry as the Tigers are tuning up for the real SEC. Kind of like a preseason game.
Texas A&M would make a good early season rivalry as the Tigers are tuning up for the real SEC. Kind of like a preseason game.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 3:44 pm to Texas_Aggies
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I'm sensitive to you guys' family time on Thanksgiving, and also t.u. will probably play on Thanksgiving in that same time slot, which also now has an NFL game, too, so I'm not sure on which day it will be played. However, in Texas, families just fold it in to our Thanksgiving celebration with our families, and it's not ever been complained about to my knowledge, by anybody's family members. In fact, lots of Ags aren't gonna know what to do with themselves after the Cowboy game in the afternoon if we're not playing the sips or whomever. If it happens, once you and your families adjust, it'll become a part of that great holiday, and my guess is that you love it! Geaux Tigers, and Gig 'Em.
That only addresses the potential holiday ruining aspect of it. How about addressing this?
quote:
My only issue is to not have it fall on Thanksgiving Day. Assuming we care about being in a position to play for SECW Title each year and a trip to Atlanta, a Thursday game against a quality opponent within our division at the end of the year is no way to go about that. It either means LSU has a short week to prepare, or it means we somehow get to set our open date the week before, which would mean LSU would be forced to play 11 games in a row before hitting the bye week.
If you guys are our 12th game, it either means we'll be playing you guys on a VERY short week, or will have had to move the bye week into the week before, which would mean we'd have played 11 games in a row to start the season...every year. While I don't really care what this does to A&M's chances of winning the SECW, I actually DO care about what it does to LSU's. Much like the completely asinine 6-1-1 conference schedule the BAMAphile SEC has conjured up to keep BAMA/AU/UGA/UT happy, this will cause an undue burden on parts of the conference and will benefit others. At this time, BAMA is LSU's biggest obstacle to Atlanta. Which would you prefer if you care about winning the West each year? Play a normal schedule with the bye week someone in the middle and play your last game against a tough opponent on the final Saturday with the normal amount of prep days, or play 11 straight games and get your bye week second to last and play on Thanksgiving Night, or have your bye week earlier and play against a quality opponent on 4 1/2 days rest to play Thanksgiving Night? Which do you think BAMA's coach would prefer?
I'm not seeing, at all, why this would be a good move for anyone other than the rest of the SECW.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 3:45 pm to GeauxTigerTM
i hate both teams equally.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 6:50 pm to The Ramp
quote:I am completely perplexed by your concerns, of which I was equally perplexed by other LSU posters earlier in this thread.
If you guys are our 12th game, it either means we'll be playing you guys on a VERY short week, or will have had to move the bye week into the week before, which would mean we'd have played 11 games in a row to start the season...every year. While I don't really care what this does to A&M's chances of winning the SECW, I actually DO care about what it does to LSU's. Much like the completely asinine 6-1-1 conference schedule the BAMAphile SEC has conjured up to keep BAMA/AU/UGA/UT happy, this will cause an undue burden on parts of the conference and will benefit others. At this time, BAMA is LSU's biggest obstacle to Atlanta. Which would you prefer if you care about winning the West each year? Play a normal schedule with the bye week someone in the middle and play your last game against a tough opponent on the final Saturday with the normal amount of prep days, or play 11 straight games and get your bye week second to last and play on Thanksgiving Night, or have your bye week earlier and play against a quality opponent on 4 1/2 days rest to play Thanksgiving Night? Which do you think BAMA's coach would prefer?
I'm not seeing, at all, why this would be a good move for anyone other than the rest of the SECW.
We've been playing on T-Day for a long time. t.u.'s bye and our bye have always come earlier in the season, so both we and the sips always had a short week, same with the Cowboys and the Lions, except they always play at home on T-Day, so the other team always had to travel on a short week. With LSU and A&M, one would have to travel on a short week one year, and the other one the next year, etc., ad infinitum. How do you see this as a disadvantage? It's not. We've been doing it since way back in the SWC. These are the years that either t.u. or we won the SWC:
1915-1922
1924-1932
1935-1943
1945-1954
1956-1958
1960-1963
1965-1989
1991-1993
1996
Clearly, the SEC is more difficult today that the SWC was back then, but also, clearly, it didn't hurt us too much to play on Thanksgiving. It's equal for both teams, guys. As long as neither team gets their bye the week before the game, it's even, and you can put your bye whenever you want, or, whenever the scheduler gives you, usually about midway through the season. Furthermore, if that's your last game of the regular season, you'd get an extra couple of days rest before the SEC Championship Game.
Again, I just don't understand why this is a problem for some of you, but then we've been doing this for a very long time, so we've a lot more experience with it.
Note: There were some effed-up years when the game was on the Friday or Saturday, after T-Day, but most of them, to my memory, were on T-Day.
This post was edited on 6/8/12 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 6/8/12 at 6:53 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
A&M
College Station warmer in November.
College Station warmer in November.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 6:57 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
A&M because we don't really have a rivalry with Arkansas especially with the ugly boot waiting the winner.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:56 am to Touchdowns4LSU
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For me, Arkansas was just fine as a season ending game. It usually meant something, something that A&M will not other then bragging rights on the internet. The only way A&M will ever see a top five ranking by Thanksgiving would be if probation were to follow shortly.
You're either naive or trolling.. aTm will be a top 10 program within the next 5 years
Posted on 6/9/12 at 6:40 am to Ghostfacedistiller
TAM
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:14 am to Ghostfacedistiller
I have selfish reasons to keep Arky. My paternal grandpa lives in BR and has season tickets. My maternal grandma lives in North Little Rock. Thus my family has always been able to to attend the Arky game after thanksgiving. However, moving the game to Fayetteville this becomes a moot point since being married I no longer can go to BR for thanksgiving, and I won't really be able to make up to U of A.
Posted on 6/15/12 at 6:35 pm to Bmath
Wus
Posted on 6/15/12 at 7:10 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
A&M, without a doubt.
Posted on 6/15/12 at 7:46 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
Couldn't care less about the battle for the boot
Posted on 6/15/12 at 7:58 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
Arkansas
Posted on 6/15/12 at 8:34 pm to LSU Tigershark
Maybe I am old school, but I would like to see us open the season with A&M like we used to do and continue to end the season with Arkansas. I would also like to continue playing Florida as our permanent opponent from the East. I figure if you want to be the best, then you have to beat the best and the Gators are traditionally one of the best.
Posted on 6/15/12 at 8:42 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
It has to be kids that are answering the OP. TAM was never a rival of LSU's. I started LSU in '69 and graduated in '72. TAM was either our first or second game, believe me, there wasn't any atmosphere in any of those games while I attended college. After I graduated, I still went to several TAM and LSU games, again no rivalry. If you consider TAM as a true rival, then you better list Baylor and Rice too. Those were the three games that we always started the season with. Our true rival was Ole Miss where LSU had the Ole Miss week. I lived on campus back then, and during Ole Miss week the students went crazy. They started fires in outdoor trash bins, had panty raids at the female dorms. LSU even had Go To Hell Ole Miss buttons. TAM was really nothing for the LSU fans, but when LSU met Arky in a bowl, especially in the Sugar, the atmosphere was crazy like Ole Miss week. Do yourselves a favor, and look up the history of LSU and Arky in the Sugar Bowl, and educate yourselves about one of the biggest upsets that LSU pulled off. 
Posted on 6/16/12 at 12:14 am to avondale88
I remember the LSU game (I was at A&M '89-93) was almost as big as Texas in terms of a rival and was a better game (that was in the middle of our beating Texas 10 of 11). Nasty on both sides. I was in the Corps at A&M and the Ross Volunteers always come down for Mardi Gras to march. LSU was also the only school that cadets were not required to wear a uniform because the treatment was so harsh.
My Dad graduated from A&M in '58 in the Bear Bryant years and he has great memories of the rivalry as well (back then all the games were in BR because A&M was still an a small all male, all military school). He has some very colorful stories of those trips (he was a Yell Leader).
The Cotton Bowl started to bring back some of those memories for me. A&M has been down while LSU is in a golden age but over time both schools are heavyweights with a tremendous amount in common. Houston, East Texas, and Western LA have always been mixed with grads and great players that went to either school. At A&M we had John David Crow, Bucky Richardson, and Billy Cannon Jr that always inspired the rivalry. I will also never forget Harvey Williams changing his commitment at the last minute to go to LSU and then giving A&M 4 years of hell on the field. Make no mistake, within 5 years the A&M/LSU game will be the most emotionally charged game for both schools.
I would love the game to be on Thanksgiving but I understand why LSU fans have an initial dislike of the idea. What you don't realize is just how awesome it is to either have Thanksgiving early or to tailgate with fried turkey and then go for a night game on Thanksgiving with the entire country watching after the Cowboys game. It's a unique and magical atmosphere, especially when the game means something in terms of the conference. Why just be one of the dozens of teams playing on Friday or Saturday when you can be THE game on Thanksgiving night? I know how special that is at Kyle and I can only imagine what it would be like at Tiger Stadium.
My Dad graduated from A&M in '58 in the Bear Bryant years and he has great memories of the rivalry as well (back then all the games were in BR because A&M was still an a small all male, all military school). He has some very colorful stories of those trips (he was a Yell Leader).
The Cotton Bowl started to bring back some of those memories for me. A&M has been down while LSU is in a golden age but over time both schools are heavyweights with a tremendous amount in common. Houston, East Texas, and Western LA have always been mixed with grads and great players that went to either school. At A&M we had John David Crow, Bucky Richardson, and Billy Cannon Jr that always inspired the rivalry. I will also never forget Harvey Williams changing his commitment at the last minute to go to LSU and then giving A&M 4 years of hell on the field. Make no mistake, within 5 years the A&M/LSU game will be the most emotionally charged game for both schools.
I would love the game to be on Thanksgiving but I understand why LSU fans have an initial dislike of the idea. What you don't realize is just how awesome it is to either have Thanksgiving early or to tailgate with fried turkey and then go for a night game on Thanksgiving with the entire country watching after the Cowboys game. It's a unique and magical atmosphere, especially when the game means something in terms of the conference. Why just be one of the dozens of teams playing on Friday or Saturday when you can be THE game on Thanksgiving night? I know how special that is at Kyle and I can only imagine what it would be like at Tiger Stadium.
Posted on 6/16/12 at 5:37 am to Football_Freak
I thought all rivals had to be in the other division to screw up all the schedules!!! 
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