re: Comparing Les to other great coaches.

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At the end of the 04 yr, LSU was 9-3, out of the west race by 10/2,

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No, we weren't out of the west race by 10/2.

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drilled by Ga by 30, and not ranked in the top 15. We were the 3rd to 4th best team in the SEC and Saint Saban was out coach. What is so fricking stacked in that?

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What was our consensus preseason ranking going into 2005? Everybody in the world knew we were loaded going into 2005 and would have a great team, and we did. I guess everybody (except the few Miles loonies on here) is wrong this time, since nobody has LSU anywhere near the top 5 or 10, which is where we were at this time five years ago.

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Then how have two teams stormed through it to the tune of 31-1 vs. the rest of the conference during that span?

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Because what we've seen is the upper-tier teams getting weaker and the lower-tier teams getting stronger. It's not enough of a difference for the lower-tier teams to beat the upper-tier ones, but it makes the scores closer. Case in point in Moo State.

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Mack has beating Okie 4 of the last 5 years.

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Um. I don't think so. My memory chip has a couple of gaps in it but I believe that last year was the first time Texass beat Zero U in a while.

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but only this season will tell.

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For you that might be true, for those calling the shots at LSU that would be little more than a silly, child like approach to take. Hopefully, they have a tad more maturity/common sense in their reasoning ability than to evaluate a coach on one year when he has been there 6 and produced many results which, to this point, are unequaled in LSU history.

There is a tad different approach taken to these things in the real world as opposed to the sports forum world. I know you don't understand that, but you will in time...I hope.

Sorry, but I think GA was AWFUL last year. Did you watch them play - I watched several games and they were terrible, maybe they improved a little for the bowl, but they were awful during the regular season. Yea, they were 4-4 in SEC, but SEC was somewhat down last year and they didn't have victories over any of the better teams last year, it isn't like they beat FL or AL, the beat SC, Arkansas, Vandy and a decent AU team - but that is a HUGE rivalry and the better team doesn't always win rivalry games.

My point is just it if the program was as good as it use to be, we would have beat the bad teams easily. Yea, even the best of teams have off weeks and need to come from behind to win, but LSU had to do it too many times and while the won, it doesn't appear that the ship is heading in the right direction or that the captain knows where he is going. Yea, we have QB problems, but Miles is responsible for recruiting a good QB.

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The sad thing about Miles is that Ranters want LSU to lose so Miles can get caned.......

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This is such a stupid, simple-minded, Miles-lover response.
(no one is calling for Miles to get his arse beat in Singapore either)

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inebr8ted tiger

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for an inebr8ted tiger you show great clarity...Miles' record is just about what it should be considering the hand he and LSU have been dealt. the blithering idiots who hate him and deify Saban have somehow forgotten UAB...Iowa...ULM and Utah. Saban is a damn good coach...but he happens to work for the U of Alabama...so frick him and the horse he rode off on. Miles coaches my team and teaches his players that being a human being is a full time job...he and the Tigers will always have my support.

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hand he and LSU have been dealt

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What hand is that?
Facilities & resources as good as any?
Ridiculously rich recruiting ground and program image that has allowed to reach for out-of-state studs?
As rabid a fanbase as any in CFB?
Great television exposure?
4M salary?

I'm sorry, let me throw on my blame hat.....
Damn Katrina & RP!
Am I missing any other blames?

I don't think anyone is trying to claim that the program now is better off than it was in 2005-2007.. just that we performed better last year than the year before.

To modify your scenario, to go from 7-5 to 9-3, to 10-2 in a three-year span definitely shows an improvement. Particularly when considering the opposition in year 3. I don't think many would argue that, either.

FWIW, if we get to #40 or less in total offense last year, I won't say that Crowton should be let off the hook, but people should ease off of him a bit. The praises of BG should probably be sung though.