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re: CBS "experts" predictions for the season

Posted on 8/25/15 at 7:59 am to
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 7:59 am to
Yall freakin crack my shite up

Every news/media outlet is crap because they don't say nice things about LSU

LSU fans hate LSU because they don't pick them to go undefeated every season, but the professionals out there don't give LSU much respect either. Well that's obviously because they don't know what they're talking about.

Unbelievable
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:11 am to
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Unbelievable




Some fans still can't come to terms with how bad our QB's have been developed and how stagnant of an offense we have had in previous years. How can you fault someone for saying they think it will happen again? The percentages are in their favor
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 8:12 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:25 am to
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Some fans still can't come to terms with how bad our QB's have been developed and how stagnant of an offense we have had in previous years.


Actually they have, they just forget during the off-season. Then when reality kicks in, they feel like the team is letting them down.

All that shite-talking all summer and now LSU is tanking to personally make them look bad. So they become negatigers and bash away at coaches and players the rest of the year.

It happens every year, over and over and over and over. LSU message board fans are not the brightest people on earth.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:42 am to
I think weve had a lot more love from the "experts" in previous years and continually underperformed due to inconsistent defense and non-existent passing game.

The chickens have come home to roost. Or whever that saying is.

We have to earn it now. No need to get offended by it.
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 8:43 am
Posted by 1badboy
In space
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:19 am to
What we need is to KIck some arse!
Posted by trooploop
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:23 am to
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Some fans still can't come to terms with how bad our QB's have been developed and how stagnant of an offense we have had in previous years. How can you fault someone for saying they think it will happen again? The percentages are in their favor


I may feel differently if Cam Cameron had never developed a quarterback, yet he's done it time and time again. He has two quarterbacks on this roster that he's recruited. I'm not sure how he takes the blame for the apparent lack of quarterback development prior to his arrival. I'll be very surprised if we don't see much improved QB play this fall.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:31 am to
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I may feel differently if Cam Cameron had never developed a quarterback, yet he's done it time and time again. He has two quarterbacks on this roster that he's recruited. I'm not sure how he takes the blame for the apparent lack of quarterback development prior to his arrival. I'll be very surprised if we don't see much improved QB play this fall.



The fans know this however nobody is going to rank a team high based on what may or may not happen. It's based on the previous year's play and what has been a problem for us more often than not.
Posted by trooploop
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:34 am to
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I may feel differently if Cam Cameron had never developed a quarterback, yet he's done it time and time again. He has two quarterbacks on this roster that he's recruited. I'm not sure how he takes the blame for the apparent lack of quarterback development prior to his arrival. I'll be very surprised if we don't see much improved QB play this fall.



The fans know this however nobody is going to rank a team high based on what may or may not happen. It's based on the previous year's play and what has been a problem for us more often than not.I may feel differently if Cam Cameron had never developed a quarterback, yet he's done it time and time again. He has two quarterbacks on this roster that he's recruited. I'm not sure how he takes the blame for the apparent lack of quarterback development prior to his arrival. I'll be very surprised if we don't see much improved QB play this fall.


The fans know this however nobody is going to rank a team high based on what may or may not happen. It's based on the previous year's play and what has been a problem for us more often than not.


I agree with that. I don't even have a problem with the ranking, or the perception that LSU is overrated. I just don't think it's fair to Cam Cameron that he is now somehow responsible for QB play at LSU for the last decade. Now, if Harris and McMillan flop that's on him.
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:43 am to
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It's based on the previous year's play and what has been a problem for us more often than not.


Anyone with half a brain should realize this is a completely different team from both a coaching standpoint as well as personnel standpoint. Frank and Ensminger are the only offensive coaches with more than 2 years' experience in the program.

Then again, crediting these analysts with possessing half a brain might be generous.

Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:11 am to
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Anyone with half a brain should realize this is a completely different team from both a coaching standpoint as well as personnel



Also anyone with half a brain wouldn't say LSU should have a spectacular passing attack this year. It is what it is. I think we are ranked perfectly. You can't sit there as a fan and be upset because people are replicating the same words as our fan base has been for years minus 2013
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 10:13 am
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:23 am to
I agree, #13-15 preseason is about right for this team... but the CBS article linked in the OP has 4/6 "experts" picked LSU as their overrated team for the conference... that's what has people taking offense, not the ranking itself.

As stated earlier in this thread, Alabama is at #3, Auburn at #6, but LSU is the overrated team at #13....?
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:27 am to
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As stated earlier in this thread, Alabama is at #3, Auburn at #6, but LSU is the overrated team at #13....?



I agree the overrated column is retarded since we are not rated high as it is but most of what they said also has people in this thread upset which is also retarded.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:43 am to
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t happens every year, over and over and over and over. LSU message board fans are not the brightest people on earth.



Once again, I hope you're counting yourself among that number.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:50 am to
What has people upset is the rationale of, LSU typically has bad quarterback play, and they have the same quarterback as last year so they will have bad quarterback play again... meanwhile, Alabama and Auburn typically have good quarterback play, and despite that both will be breaking in new starters, they will have good quarterback play again.

It defies logic.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16790 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:56 am to
The LSU BRAND is still strong. Witness our prominent place among the perceived national championship contenders in ESPN's excellent Urban Meyer commercial.

However, it's time for CLM to produce on the field. Another 8-5 season followed by lame excuses like, "We were two plays away from being 10-3!" ain't gonna cut it no more.

Every year Alabama is supposed to have an inexperienced quarterback and have a down year.

And every year they are in the playoffs and/or contending for the national champiohship.

I wonder why that is?

Again, the buck stops with Les. If we continue the trend we've been on since 2012, the LSU brand will begin to suffer.
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 10:58 am
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:58 am to
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an old Blake Sims


People keep saying this but the truth is, the 2014 Alabama offense was the Amari Cooper show because of his experience & outstanding talent. Without Cooper, there's no way the Tide’s offensive production would have been where it was. It was all about the bubble screens & quick outs that then set up the deep ball to Cooper. That was Alabama's passing game a year ago.

Rec. 124 1727 yds 13.9 YPC 16 TDs

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Cooper has caught 10 or more passes in five games, and eclipsed the 200-yard mark on three separate occasions this fall, showing remarkable consistency. These big numbers aren't by accident either, as he accounted for 45% of Alabama's receiving yards, the highest total of any player in Division-1.


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Even though Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide have produced elite NFL talent at the position before, no receiver has contributed so much to an Alabama offense in the illustrious history of the program.


LINK

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Their QB's are coached up better and well prepared for each game.


You are correct on AJ but I'm not sold on Sims for the reasons stated above. Any QB will look decent when you have the best & most well rounded receiver in the entire nation to throw to unless the QB has accuracy issues like Jennings showed last season on intermediate throws.

What posters are trying to point out though is that Cooper isn't walking through that door for Alabama this year. They have no receiver on their current roster with the blend of talent, skill & experience that Amari had heading into last season which means no security blanket for whichever inexperienced QB Saban picks to start. There were times the Tide had offensive issues last season too. The loss to Ole Miss, at Arkansas & here at LSU. They are set to have even more offensive issues this year.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:02 am to
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Anyone with half a brain should realize this is a completely different team from both a coaching standpoint as well as personnel standpoint.


This. Coaches go on record every year saying that with every new season, comes a new team with a different personality along with different strengths & weaknesses.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:06 am to
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I usually don't care what people think


None of this stuff means squat. They have no clue what has changed or hasn't changed. They are just filling space and getting a pay check.

We have a new DC, new DL coach, and new starting QB. Anyone acting like they know for sure what this yr. will bring to LSU football is simply fooling themselves. imo

Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:16 am to
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Every year Alabama is supposed to have an inexperienced quarterback and have a down year.


2008 - John Parker Wilson - senior
2009 - Greg McElroy - redshirt junior
2010 - Greg McElroy - redshirt senior
2011 - AJ McCarron - redshirt sophomore
2012 - AJ McCarron - redshirt junior
2013 - AJ McCarron - redshirt senior
2014 - Blake Sims - redshirt senior

2008 - Jarrett Lee - redshirt freshman
2009 - Jordan Jefferson - true sophomore
2010 - Jefferson/Lee - junior
2011 - Jefferson/Lee - senior
2012 - Zach Mettenberger - redshirt junior
2013 - Zach Mettenberger - redshirt senior
2014 - Anthony Jennings - true sophomore

It's really no shock that Alabama has had more consistent play during that time frame... or that our most productive seasons from the quarterback position were in 2013 and 2011.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:36 am to
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Alabama and Auburn typically have good quarterback play, and despite that both will be breaking in new starters, they will have good quarterback play again. It defies logic.



How many years under Saban has Bama had bad QB play regardless of the QB? Auburn is a run heavy team in a gimmick offense and anybody that watches college football realizes they have a QB that is capable of running that offense. You can't compare LSU with those 2 teams. We have had bad QB play the past 5-6 years minus 2013. Obviously we as fans know we are capable of having good QB play this year but what makes you think an outsider is going to think that when we haven't proven that?
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 11:36 am
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