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re: Are we really bunting this much?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:48 am to catholictigerfan
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:48 am to catholictigerfan
Mostly, i just disagree with it in the beginning of the game most of the time. Statistics compiled for decades proves you get better run production over the long haul by not bunting early ingames
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:52 am to josh336
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Why give up one of our precious outs and a chance to have a big inning by playing for 1 run in the 1st 3 innings. Play for the crooked number.
I'm with Josh. I like a good squeeze, suicide or safety, because it produces a run. I'm seldom a fan of the sac bunt to 2nd base, because you still need a hit to score the runner. I like the sac bunt to move two runners up to 2nd and 3rd. In that situation you remove the double play ball, and you can still score a run without a hit via a sac fly, rbi groundout, etc.
However, I'm not a fan of a true sac bunt in the first half of the game. Don't give up the outs. Make the pitcher work for his outs. Instead of the sac bunt, or hit and run, let the base runner steal 2nd base.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:26 am to josh336
I agree josh it just seemed you were very much against the idea all together the way you were discussing it
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:00 pm to catholictigerfan
Nah, im ok with it 7 th inning or later, and like choup said, with runners at first and second. But with a runner at 1st and no outs in the first half of the game, its usually not a good move. Also not for it with a runner on 2nd, and no outs in the first half the game.
Everything is situational for me.
Also not for talking about bunting for a hit, only sac bunts.
Everything is situational for me.
Also not for talking about bunting for a hit, only sac bunts.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:15 pm to Choupique19
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I'm with Josh. I like a good squeeze, suicide or safety, because it produces a run. I'm seldom a fan of the sac bunt to 2nd base, because you still need a hit to score the runner. I like the sac bunt to move two runners up to 2nd and 3rd. In that situation you remove the double play ball, and you can still score a run without a hit via a sac fly, rbi groundout, etc.
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However, I'm not a fan of a true sac bunt in the first half of the game. Don't give up the outs. Make the pitcher work for his outs. Instead of the sac bunt, or hit and run, let the base runner steal 2nd base.
That's pretty much my view on it also.
There's great times to bunt; a 1 run or tie game in late innings, but not an entire game full.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:18 pm to BigEdLSU
For the past 3 years the rant has been bitching about the bats and how we get beat by small ball in Omaha... Well, now we are adapting and the rant crys about it...
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:26 pm to RBWilliams8
I guess Gorilla Ball is way gone. With all the bunting, perhaps we ought to call it "Squirrel Monkey" or "Capuchin Ball" (perhaps ther latter would belnd in with the organ playing during the games).
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:27 pm to drdrfaulkner
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I guess Gorilla Ball is way gone.
Yep, 16 years ago. Why do people still bring this shite up?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:27 pm to RBWilliams8
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For the past 3 years the rant has been bitching about the bats and how we get beat by small ball in Omaha... Well, now we are adapting and the rant crys about it...
This. Seems like they should probably just not watch baseball. Easy solution.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:33 pm to lsu2006
Reading comprehension could be your friend. I dont bash the LSU team or methods.
I am bored by them, sure.
Is the not the rant? The place for complaints?
I am bored by them, sure.
Is the not the rant? The place for complaints?
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:04 pm to RBWilliams8
Impossible, we disnt get beat by small ball in. 2012 or 2011
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:13 pm to lsu2006
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Why do people still bring this shite up?
Many casual fans clamor for the return of that era...which is impossible with the new equipment.
Can't deny it brought about a hysteria among fans that hasn't been matched since.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:19 pm to lsu2006
Exactly
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:23 pm to BigEdLSU
I didnt read through this entire thread, but Im glad we are trying to bunt and steal and what not... ie execute small ball type baseball.
With the new bats and stadium in Omaha, its the only way to win. UCLA was the master of small ball. They won it all. Stoney Brook knew how to do it as well.
So while its not an exciting type of baseball, teams have got to be able to do it. Its a difference maker, especially in Omaha. You have got to be able to do it.
Plus, didnt we hit into an absurd # of double plays last year?
With the new bats and stadium in Omaha, its the only way to win. UCLA was the master of small ball. They won it all. Stoney Brook knew how to do it as well.
So while its not an exciting type of baseball, teams have got to be able to do it. Its a difference maker, especially in Omaha. You have got to be able to do it.
Plus, didnt we hit into an absurd # of double plays last year?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:36 pm to KG5989
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With the new bats and stadium in Omaha, its the only way to win
Not true at all. We won the SECt with these bats and in a park of comparable size. Our bats went cold, that's why we lost.
Don't take this as me "not liking small ball", because I'm a fan of doing whatever it takes to win each individual game, whether that's swinging for the fences or playing station-to-station.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:37 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Can't deny it brought about a hysteria among fans that hasn't been matched since.
Of course. That was shitty baseball, too though. Just a different type of shitty. We (myself included) were just blinded by it because we were kicking everyone's asses.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:39 pm to lsu2006
Dont ruin the thread with facts brah, the only way to win is small ball because of a few late season games in 2013. 2012 and 2011 be damned.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:48 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Many casual fans clamor for the return of that era...which is impossible with the new equipment. Can't deny it brought about a hysteria among fans that hasn't been matched since.
That had more to do with winning a whole lot.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:55 pm to lsu2006
Yeah our bats went cold and we couldnt get a runner over in scoring position. We constantly hit into double plays last year.
Bunting avoids all of that.
And I wouldnt even say its because our bats went cold. I remember multiple times Ibarra crushed the ball in Omaha. But the outfielders tracked it down and caught it.
And Im not saying we change our entire philosophy with hitting. We just need to be able to execute the small ball style of baseball. Especially in Omaha. It should be a no brainer in Omaha. You get a guy on 1st with 0 outs, you sac bunt him over to 2nd. Gets rid of the chance of the double play and gets the guy in scoring position. And we have enough guys with elite speed to beat out some throws on bunts.
Im not saying do it all the time. But runs are hard to come by, especially in Omaha. If we have Nola on the mound, Im confident all it takes is 2 runs for us to get the W.
Bunting avoids all of that.
And I wouldnt even say its because our bats went cold. I remember multiple times Ibarra crushed the ball in Omaha. But the outfielders tracked it down and caught it.
And Im not saying we change our entire philosophy with hitting. We just need to be able to execute the small ball style of baseball. Especially in Omaha. It should be a no brainer in Omaha. You get a guy on 1st with 0 outs, you sac bunt him over to 2nd. Gets rid of the chance of the double play and gets the guy in scoring position. And we have enough guys with elite speed to beat out some throws on bunts.
Im not saying do it all the time. But runs are hard to come by, especially in Omaha. If we have Nola on the mound, Im confident all it takes is 2 runs for us to get the W.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:04 pm to KG5989
The College World Series (and baseball playoffs in general) is a total crapshoot. Almost anything can happen in such a small sample size in baseball. UCLA won the CWS because their pitching was absolutely lights out for a week. I hope LSU doesn’t become too reliant on the sac bunt. There is an occasional time for a sac bunt, but for the most part it reduces your expected run output. If Bregman is bunting for a hit and succeeding about half the time, go for it, but I can’t really think of many situations(if any) where he should be sacrificing.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:05 pm
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